I donât use deoderant; I donât feel the difference and I never really cared much about my smell; but my parent keeps bringing it up and itâs annoying.
Also, whatâs wrong with smell? Human smells differ anyway.
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Smelling nice or even neutral isnât something to benefit you, its so everyone else doesnât have to experience disgusting and gross smells in public. Your parents are trying to help you not be rude to them and other people, listen to them.
Exactly what I was going to point out. You might not mind your own smell, but other certainly will, and deodorant can be a good way to mitigate that problem.
Your parent keep bringing it up because your smell is offensive. Theyâre trying to help you learn the things that will help you get a job, or have friends, or go on dates. In short, theyâre being a parent. Help them help you.
Are you doing everything that will better your chances at getting a job or a date?
Well, Iâm both employed and happily married, but you can bet if my boss or my wife told me I needed to use deodorant, I wouldnât argue with them. Câmon, man.
Are you doing it just with that example (deodorant), or with anything else as well? That was my question. If youâre not doing that, it would be interesting for me to explore the differences, and why you wouldnât do other things with your body when others are requesting it.
If itâs a matter of hygiene, then I would listen. If itâs a matter of personal taste, then I would see whether I share their taste. Itâs pretty simple, really. I donât want to be offensive, so that tends to be my compass.
i might get downvoted, but i think itâs a valid question. however, i think most people are, which makes it a bit of a strange question. i think it might be better in its own thread.
Thatâs not the point, and oneâs offensive smell is a massive barrier to employment.
I really donât understand people like you.
Of course. I know. Everybody knows. Iâm simply suggesting that something being a fact isnât making it okay or good.
What kind of person do you think I am?
A contrarian who would rather play these stupid games instead of helping a comrade out by recognizing a problem they have and giving good advice? Youâre not helping here, youâre just enabling poor hygiene because youâre way too preoccupied with playing the devilâs advocate.
You said
in response to someone saying
Notice how you conveniently left out the part about this helping to get a person friends? Instead, you fixated on them being hygienic only for the sake of getting a job or dates. Why did you do that? Surely you understand the importance of hygiene in relation to making/having friends-- something extremely important for oneâs mental health?
Stop playing this game. It especially sucks because youâre playing this contrarian game when someone in a bad situation is basically asking for a reality check, but instead of giving them a reality check youâre just entertaining/enabling their incorrect beliefs.
I give up. You are simply waaaaay to ingrained with trodden paths to be able to look left or right. You only know forwards, and any deviation feels like an insult to you. I donât have a problem with every form of conservatism, but the one that canât explain itself and simply does things because they were âalwaysâ done is dangerous.
I know that you are sure that youâre progressive and shit, but youâre not. You are hung up in old ways that you donât question, and hate on those who do.
By the way, I have a buddy who doesnât use deo. Itâs okay for me. It stinks a bit when he comes, but I forget about after a few moments, and from then on itâs okay. He asked once if it is okay for me, and I replied that it is, and that I think it is cool that he does what he wants despite social pressure.
And youâre suggesting that this is wrong?
Translation: "I donât mind if people fart in my presence, in fact I have a friend who farts near me and I think it is cool that he just does what he wants despite social pressure. Are you suggesting that this is wrong?"
Dude. Are you seriously suggesting that people canât be fine with farts or something?
I never thought that people THIS square would be found on Lemmy.
âWow you donât think people who stink are cool? You donât think theyâre rebels against societal pressure? What a square!â
Ok now Iâm done replying to you and your foolishness in this thread. I think you misinterpreted what leftists meant when we talk about revolting.
If you think not using deo is ârevoltingâ, then thatâs exactly the problem. But, it is as you say, lets stop talking about this. We wonât find common ground here. Itâs all wrong, and there are no opinions about this. Of course.
True. One might even say this discussion stinks.
The downvotes are quite telling. :D
Telling of what? Itâs unclear what the point of your previous comment is and as it stands, it is unhelpful.
Is it unclear to you, or do you suggest that others might not understand it?
your name is beginning to make a lot of sense
Yes, everybody else is wrong and youâre right. Is that what you really think?
No. Why would I? This post and the votes show that there are different opinions for multiple people. So why would I think that this is literally âme vs everyone elseâ?
Do you think that this is the case?
I think the downvotes are telling that your opinion is absurd and very weird.
âMy friend stinks and I thin itâs cool that he stinks and doesnât care about societyâ is basically your argument here. Lay off the pipe, Iâm all for smoking weed but youâve smoked yourself stupid if you really believe the nonsense youâre spewing in this thread.
You really got me wrong. This is the interpretation most people here express, and thatâs not how it is. Neither for me, nor my friend. Quite the opposite.
You literally said your friend stinks and that you think itâs cool that he cool that he does what he wants despite social pressure.
So, from one autistic person to another⌠smells can be rude.
Smells are a sensory thing for me. Thereâs a person in my building who sweats too much. His stink is everywhere and it causes me to gag.
Itâs an evolutionary thing to generally be okay with our own personal smells, because it wouldnât be helpful if we gagged at our own stink all the time (this is why the smell of our own poop usually doesnât bother us. Also, I think mothers usually arenât as bothered by the smell of their own babyâs poop for similar reasons). But someone elseâs stink can tell us theyâre unhygienic or sick.
You donât need to smell like roses⌠you just need to not stink. There are unscented deodorants. I personally currently use apple cider vinegar as a natural deodorant. Although Iâm starting to miss the convenience of regular deodorant.
I canât tell you what to do⌠if you want to stink, stink. Iâm just explaining why people like deodorant.
Oh yeah. Sometimes its better to use deodorant to reduce distraction.
Yes please wear deodorant especially if people are complaining about your smell.
Why am I not surprised that this type of thread would be on a reddit alternative website HAHAHA
I mean you canât exactly trust the capitalist regime.
Also Americans go brain-dead when it comes to cosmetics. LMAO!
If Iâm around people, yes. If Iâm just at home, no. I shower usually every 1-2 days but even so, I mostly wear deodorant when Iâm going to be around people because I think itâs the considerate thing to do. Also as another user said, body odor often is correlated with hydration, or lack thereof. So drink water (pee should be clear) and that will help.
Itâs one of those things where I think it just boils down to being considerate of others, and realizing that using deodorant is a pretty small measure to take in order to prevent creating an unpleasant experience for other people.
This threadâs kind of depressing to read. Come on people-- this is basic hygiene/consideration, itâs not rocket science. Brush your teeth (and tongue) when you wake up and before you go to sleep. Shower every 1-2 days (use soap everywhere below your face), and wear deodorant if youâre going to be around people especially indoors.
Iâve actually read that using soap everywhere actually might be harming our skin barrier if showering every day. It seems soap on the armpits, genitals, and any stinky parts are the only place you should wash daily.
The article in question: https://web.archive.org/web/20220121065824/https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/25/magazine/my-no-soap-no-shampoo-bacteria-rich-hygiene-experiment.html
Also, havenât read it yet, but âThe Joy of Sweatâ by Sarah Everts seems like a good look at sweat.
But also, yeah use deodorant around other people. Iâd suggest something unscented because really fragrant smells can be just as aggressively stinky (in the opposite way) as natural sweat.
iâm hope i donât come off as aggressive or anything, not my intention. just remember that those things arenât easy for everyone (but i agree, definitely more considerate).
i donât brush often due to many health problems, one major one being OCD. i can only brush during certain time slots, which rarely occur. i know my breath is atrocious. fortunately, i imagine a mask helps. iâm also not around people often.
i shower every 3-4 days, sometimes less often (though i donât like showering less often). i also donât use much soap unless iâm taking my eczema medication or waxing. and of course i use soap in the private areas, because iâve had c. diff.
might sound gross, but iâve asked honest people and they swear i donât smell. and theyâre the kind of people who have told me when i do smell. they know about my bathing habits. i just donât smell (breath iâm sure stinks though, i havenât asked because i know). if i did smell i would definitely do something about it. like our stomach, we have probiotics on our skin, and if our skin biome is healthy we generally wonât stink. now being that i have eczema i probably donât have the best skin biome, but thereâs certainly something good there. when my physical health issues were EXTREMELY severe and i hadnât bathed in two months, my partner at the time told me i didnât stink. and it wasnât to be kind, she was genuinely surprised because, you know, two months without bathing, a person should probably stink.
thereâs a guy in my building who always stinks. from conversations it seems he showers several times a day. i suspect he has a medical condition that i desperately wish he would get checked out, because iâve nearly vomited around him several times. i know him well enough to know heâs on medicaid, so this is something that would be covered.
so everyoneâs different. some of us can get away with showering less frequently, others canât. i believe thereâs a gene that makes your sweat not smell. just know your body and do your best not to be stinky imo
I donât think youâre coming off as aggressive.
When itâs a matter of mental health getting in the way of hygiene, I definitely am a lot more understanding. But if itâs someone who just doesnât put on deodorant or doesnât shower regularly because they think they donât stink but others do, then I think itâs a little different.
Iâll add that some peoplesâ shower technique is terrible. Iâm a guy and Iâve met countless men who legitimately believe they donât need to wash their feet, armpits, butt or dick because theyâre under the impression that the soapy water from the rest of their body makes its way over those regions so thereâs no need to actually lather up and wash them. Also, drinking water helps a TON with body odor whereas drinking other stuff i.e. soft drinks just contributes towards body odor.
But yeah, half the reason why I try not to judge strangers when it comes to hygiene stuff is because as yo said, I really have no clue whatâs going on with their physical or mental health.
Yeah. I forgot to add â(unless if the smell causes problems)â to my post.
^ If itâs bothering your parents enough for them to bring it up and you presumably live with them, I guarantee you someone who doesnât live with you is going to be more bothered than your parents about the smell.
Iâd recommend Mitchum Menâs Clinical unscented deodorant. Itâs (obviously) unscented, and works very well (easily a full 24 hours). Itâs a little pricey but you only need one or two clicks on the dial to have more than enough per armpit.
Also, Iâm not sure what your shower routine is like but half the reason I shower is just because itâs an enjoyable experience away from people that I can just enjoy in silence. 10 minutes of bliss.
We didnât need deoderant when we wandered about the open savanna, but if youâre living with a bunch of other apes, in a cramped city, humans get smelly, so we all need to bathe regularly, and if youâre still a bit swetty, stick something else on.
People have senses and they mostly canât control how they feel the stimuli presented to them. Itâs ok to not have a smell, but having a strong smell of âsomethingâ, good or bad, intentional or not, might come as offensive to people as they do not consent to feeling it.
Is this a liberal trying to make us look bad lmao? I mean really?
I think itâs best not to worry about what people think.
Except with body odor. When people say you stink, care about what they think.
I mean, letâs not pretend this isnât an actual problem. It happens to conservatives, it happens to liberals and it happens to leftists. Itâs one of those things where I think it shouldnât be met with ridicule or disbelief, but instead it should result in an honest discussion.
Uh, no?
sorry, paranoia is a good friend of ours
I do, I shower almost every day but in some situations I wouldnât feel comfortable without it. I use the sensitive one that pretty much doesnât do much ^^
I use deodorant if Iâm going to meet other people of if itâs hot outside.
But there are too many people trying to use deodorant to hide the fact that they donât shower regularly.
Yes, its very important, but try to keep the deodorant away from industrial smells.
Yes and i wash regularly
Yes I use deodorant
sth that hasnât been written.
Body odors are correlated with your hydration.
Drink enough water and you might not even need deodorant.