I’m not saying every Fedi user is a trans anarchocommunist furry programmer, but
Hey I’m only 3 of those things!
You better switch to Linux right now young feline!
I’m running android on my phone?
It’s (sniff🤧) its just not the same 😭😭😭😭
What do you even do with Linux anyways after you’re done configuring it?
Configure it some more!
Android is linux (kernel) btw
I may not be any of those things… but turns out I enjoy the humor of all of them greatly!
Minorities are better shitposters.
I’m not a furry!
yet
I appreciate the art style, I’m just not into the porn or the kink.
I’m not a furry I just like the porn!
(/s)
Can my fursona be blahaj
Wouldn’t that be a scalely? finny?
Blahaj is furry it is a toy shark from IKEA not a real shark so I think I’m ok
Nah, people make them out of Pokemon and other made up designs so you’re included
Hey! I resent being called a fedi user
I prefer the term “feddot”
Fediot, myself.
I just so happen to be all of the above nyaa
You must be one of those people who make this internet thing go round
We are the internet mole people!
I’d like to be but my career is fucked and I’m too poor and overworked to to it on the side
DM me your resume
Everything but the trans here. Does being bi count?
Still cool to me friend!
I’m… none of those things? But I don’t hate anyone who is.
Honorary all of those things.
Cool is cool
I’m just one of these.
(I use NixOS btw)
Im 1 and a half of that…☝️
depending on who’s asking I might be none of them
🎶 Oh, Transanarchocommunistic furprogrammerdocious
Even though the sound of it is something quite atrocious
If you say it loud enough, you’ll always sound precocious
Transanarchocommunistic furprogrammerdocious! 🎶
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Ha, I’m only one of these things! I think.
Hey, Im the dude who isn’t any of that and has a don’t tread on me sticker on my toolbox
It’s a cool flag, and I like what it’s supposed to represent. I just wish I didn’t get appropriated by authoritarians regularly.
You appear to have offended 5+ people with your very existence lol jfc
7 now. Apparently, this is a left only zone.
Which is funny because No Step on Snek is more anti-authoritarian than right. It just has a bit of a right-leaning connotation
Edit: both sides think the other is the authoritarian one.
Authoritarian != policy you don’t like
American right libertarians are either republicans in denial, people with suspiciously strong opinions on the age of consent, or tech bro billionaires and their simps. They’ll gladly tongue fuck the boot on their neck as long as it means someone else is getting stepped on more
No Step on Snek has been co-opted by right-wing authoritarians.
And yet throwaway is a racist and aligns well with nationalists:
This shit is why not every migrant is good. They bring their shitty homophobic culture with them.
They would be cheered for with that sentence in Nazi bars.
Well yeah. The left is associated with communism, which is basically “everyone is a slave to the state”. Leftists are inherently authoritarians.
That’s not really what communism is.
Neither left nor right is inherently authoritarian. Both contain authoritarian and libertarian ideologies.
Let’s take a second. How exactly would communism work? What if someone didn’t want to work?
There are ancaps here?
There shouldn’t be. Can we please start bullying them?
Actually, anything pro-communist collects likes, and anything pro-capitalist collects dislikes. That’s what I observe.
My issue with the soviets wasn’t that they were communists, it’s that they were fascists.
Dont confuse authoritarian with fashism.
Isn’t oppressive authoritarianism one of the elements that make up fascism?
Fascism is explicitly right wing. If it’s not right wing then it’s still authoritarian, but not fascist.
Yeah, fascism includes authoritarianism but not the other way around. You can be authoritarian and not a fascist. Which doesn’t make you good, just different flavour of bad
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if by “authoritarian” you mean “when the government does stuff”, then by your logic every government in existence is authoritarian.
Really don’t feel like going into a supposed gotcha since you have to realize it’s a sliding scale. So it’s not my logic, it’s your logic.
potato tomato
That’s about as accurate as saying Nazis were socialists.
Ah yes the people that killed fascists and put a stop to extermination camps were actually the fascists.
I am very smart 🤓
“We have liberated Europe from fascism, but they will never forgive us for it.”
— Marshal Zhukov
They were allied with the Nazis until the Nazis decided to attack them.
You’d think this was common knowledge. School systems have clearly failed us.
Go ask some Polish people how well the Russians treated them. You can have two bad parties, just because one is worse doesn’t make the other not bad. I mean it’s such a simple concept.
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You’re deflecting. The Soviets were not fascists and you know this.
They were economically socialists, politically authoritarians - and, for better or worse, communism and the Leninist concept of the vanguard party are inextricably linked. At the end of the day, the question is: can a state democratically become socialist? The answer is clearly no, hence the vanguard party, hence Lenin, hence Ho Chi Minh, hence Mao. I’m not talking about a mixed economy, I’m talking about socualism.
They were economically socialists
By their own admission, the economy of the Soviet Union was “state capitalism”. Means of production were not owned by private individuals and companies (as in capitalism) but also not by the people or workers (as in socialism). They were owned by the state, and since the state was not democratic, this does not count as shared or public ownership. This may have been meant or justified as temporary at the start, but it did not change.
That’s basically what the entire philosophy of democratic socialism attempts to answer.
Uhh… I might be wrong, and do correct me because I’m not good at politics or geography or stuff, but isn’t The Republic of Ireland a democratic socialist country?
EDIT: Wait, by state do you mean American State?
Ireland is very much capitalist. Where did you get that idea? Free healthcare is not socialism.
Honestly? Someone I know once mentioned it was socialist and I know they vote there. That’s it. All 100% of my knowledge.
I did say I was bad at this stuff. :')
You sparked a little curiosity in me, by asking with earnest; so ya did good by at least one person here
The ROI is I think a social democracy rather democratic socialist. It is economically capitalist though with state intervention.
When we are talking political science ‘state’ is political entity that exerts legal power over a territory. They may be federalised like in the USA or they may be independant (or a few other things.) It can also refer to the systems of this power, like government, legal system, and civil service including entities like police and military forces.
EDIT: Wait, by state do you mean American State?
They mean a sovereign territory which you would probably call a country.
It’s a social democracy.
Your issue with the soviets is that you’re utterly illiterate on the subject of the soviets and should educate yourself instead of posting nonsensical comments in a public forum.
This happens when a Redditor leaves his bubble.
Lot of folks from Eastern Europe will agree on that.
I believe current social issues need fixing - maybe even adopting some radical changes. E.g. I still can’t get over the fact that capitalism allows for existence of something as ridiculous as billionaires - real life wealth ‘black holes’. And that’s just the start. On the other hand, there are some things that capitalism does extremely well, e.g. competitive markets are very good at producing cheap goods and can drive innovation (when disallowing monopolies). So maybe the right path for us is somewhere between the two extremes?
Anyways, while I understand the distaste for capitalism for some folks and the feeling that it failed them and working people below CEO level in general, I still can’t get over the fact that lots of neo-communists use USSR as a role model. The only people in that country who benefited from that system were the people at the top and those with connections to them (sounds somewhat familiar, doesn’t it?). IMO anybody trying to base their political views on communist ideology should cut off entirely from the USSR and simply deem it as a failed state (that was only communist by name) with too much blood on their hands. Definitely not something that we want to go back to.
That’s the main issue. But their approach to the economy was awful as well. Unions just collected money and did nothing, plants and factories produced either copies of goods created in the capitalist world, or things that looked bad. People who wanted to wear good-looking clothes were waiting for the end of the month because shops to gain the desired number of purchases were selling western goods for a day or two. Jeans weren’t officially imported and sold. People were buying jeans for two monthly salaries, and it was ok because anyway it was hard to spend the earned money. For a worker, it wasn’t beneficial to improve something in the factory, and nobody wanted to suggest such improvements. There was no market and because of this, nobody wanted to make better goods or make the production process more effective. There was no need in economy of resources, and because of this, production was ineffective. The Soviets admitted it, but weren’t able to change it. Goods made in the USSR and briefly in the ex-USSR countries after the USSR collapsed, were ugly, outdated and expensive. They just couldn’t compete in the market. And there are many people telling capitalism is bad. Capitalism is more effective in providing cheaper good-looking goods because companies have to make profit and compete for customers.
I’ve been thinking if we could just make all companies employee owned by law. You’d still get the benefits of capitalism but instead of vampiric investors getting all the benefits it would be the employees that reap the rewards of their own hard work. There are already employee owned businesses that compete just fine against investor owned businesses so I feel like it’s already proven out.
That’s called market socialism if you’re interested in reading about it.
Investors are not bad. They cover early-stage expanses, and of course, they want to return that money and get profit. Having investors is better than having nothing. As an alternative, workers can work for free until the company becomes profitable, or even invest some money in it. But I don’t think most workers will agree with such a scheme.
There are other ways of securing early capital that don’t require you to give a percent of your company to investors. I don’t think anything needs to be black and white, but the situation where the only people profiting off the success of a company is outside share holders creates a very anti worker incentive.
What are those ways? I’m really interested, 'cause as I know startups usually search for investors.
But that’s textbook authoritarianism. Nobody will willingly give away their life’s work to what will, in practice, be the state.
What??? How???
Oh right, now I remember. They taught me the same crap in school. Fuck the anti-communist indoctrination, fuck George Orwell, and fuck my teachers.
Wether or not the SU handed the means of production to the workers or just transferred them to a different previleged class is debatable. But it surely did not abolish the commodity form.
From a theory standpoint, Russia didnt really fullfill the prerequisites for a transition to communism. The social structures were still too aligned with serfdom. In such an environment it is difficult to actually transition from state capitalism to socialism in a functional way, and most critiques of the Soviet Union seem to stem from this problem.
I replied to someone who said the soviets were fascists. Does failing to achieve communism make them fascist or what’s your point exactly?
SU wasn’t fascist per se. It was a militaristic authoritarian dictatorship that overlapped with fascism on a lot of issues, but technically fascism means a different thing, yes.
militaristic authoritarian dictatorship
That’s a gross over-generalisation, to the point of being misleading.
Militaristic might be not technically correct, it was more of a police state than a military state, after the WWII Stalin put a lot of effort to make sure that military will remain a tool and not have agency on itself. All the police-adjacent organisations though were so powerful that they didn’t have to be militaristic to exert all the power.
Everything else is absolutely correct though, complete, absolute power was in the hand of an unelected individual and the people he empowererd, as much as power was concentrated. So as much as authocracy and dictatorship could overlap, USSR was an embodiment of that.
See also: Venezuela
“Waaah I don’t like countries I can’t exploit and take resources from”
Meant it to be more of an all out brawl of the different groups, but realized it looks like people are cheering on the libertarian after it was too late. Oh well, at the very least I think it also shows Lemmy’s general disdain for tankies.
Except tankies, those are usually downvoted
Good
Seizing the means, based.
Making a new authoritarian heirarchy to abolish the authoritarian hierarchy you supposedly just abolished, cringe.
What are communists supposed to do until we get to a classless stateless Communist society? Let ourselves get a coup from the CIA?
Continue work on removing the negative traits in our biology and mentality that cause any and all governments and groups to corrupt over time.
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Right wing and Auth-Left is both terrible
Yeah, I would definitely have that snake on the floor too, I’m not standing shoulder to shoulder with an ancap, even if it is to beat on a tankie.
That tankie will stab you in the back as soon as the ancap is done.
Not with the tannerite I threw at both of them
I am pretending that the no step snek is representing left libertarians.
The an-com flag is already there. Left libertarian and anarcho communist are basically synonymous as far as I’m aware. Not to mention the gadsen flag has been a generally right wing symbol for a while now
Thus the word “pretending”
I would love to attend that livestream.
God i want a livestream of that!
something something horseshoe theory
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I think it really depends on who you’re taking about when you say centrist.
“Gays have gone too far. Now they want to get married. I’m not against gays, but marriage is between a man and a woman” was/is a despicable “centrist” position.
“I’m not sure student loans forgiveness is the best long term solution to education costs. I think those trillions of dollars would be between spent on building schools, but it’s better than nothing” was/is common “centrist” position I don’t agree with but doesn’t bother me much.
It seems like there’s at least two definitions of centrist.
People who equate both parties policies at every turn are centrists in my mind.
In the mind of many others in the left, anyone slightly right of Sanders is a centrist. And I think that’s an entirely different definition.
The definitions are so opposed to each other that two people using the same word can be talking about something completely different.
In the mind of many others in the left, anyone slightly right of Sanders is a centrist. And I think that’s an entirely different definition.
they are in Europe.
also both centrist takes are stupid that you described.
The Overton window is a sliding scale.
And ya, both takes are hard to agree with, but one enables the trampling of civil rights, while the other simply has a separate view of how to use finite resources to solve a fiscal problem.
Anyone who equates those two takes os also quite “stupid.” Equating those two is a much worse take than the take about student loans forgiveness maybe not being the best way to address a national problem effecting hundreds of millions of citizens, that decades of neglect and misappropriation of tax funds created.
Also, Considering Biden is getting student loan forgiveness done, while sanders has not, the group that equates both parties, or moans at anyone left of sanders is doing the service of the centrist agenda, and in turn the right wing agenda.
Considering Biden is getting student loan forgiveness done, while sanders has not
Sanders is the chair of the committee in charge of student loans. He is also not the president.
Exactly. He’s not the president. And the person who is is getting the job done. Because sanders was not able to turn his candidacy into affect. And the Democratic Party “elites” put sanders in the role that he currently holds.
The two parties aren’t the same. Nuance about how to deal with the educational crisis of cost is not the enemy. Decades of neglecting education entirely is.
Btw: just so we are avoiding history revisionism. Student load forgiveness is being handled by the executive branch. Not the senate.
i think most of us are referring to the enlightened centrist that has no belief other than being ‘in the middle’ of the two prominent positions. people who don’t want to rock the boat and are constantly looking for compromise no matter how abhorrent one position may be, like my uncle who wants me to get along with folks that literally want me as a queer person dead.
the real problem with being a ‘moderate’ or a ‘centrist’ is that it’s a moving target depending on the prevailing political positions of the day. in reality, american democrats are the centrists, and pretty much everyone else is right wing.
This is something that I realized recently. There is no middle. Neutrality doesn’t exist.
If you accept the way things work, you’re complicit, if you don’t accept them, you’re not. End of the story.
yeah but i’m talking about the extremists (as in the horseshoe theory) not the overall ideology
Yes, people that aren’t “equipped” with an all-emcompassing ideology that conveniently defines their whole worldview for an immediate opinion on everything or that don’t happen to have vehement feelings on the issue-of-the-day are literally peasants amirite?
“Auth-Left” is an oxymoron. Stalinism is just another flavor of top-down oppression of the common people, and all such oppression is right-wing by definition.
Seems like every time the left is accused of anything, it’s never actually the left that did it. It’s always some nefarious actor. The left cannot and never has done anything wrong… except for not being left enough, of course.
I literally just linked you the historical definition of leftism. Those who supported the aristocracy were on the right; those who supported the people were on the left. Now tell me, do you mean to claim that Stalin supported his people, or do you agree with me that he supported only himself and his cronies? Because if it’s the latter, then by the aforementioned historical definition, he was not a leftist.
I never disputed your link on the origins of the term.
All I said is that it seems very convenient that the left cannot and never has done anything wrong other than not being left enough. You’re either completely benevolent or you’re not a leftist, by definition.
There is no act that can’t be waived away as being “not actually left-wing.”
What are you trying to say? That today’s leftists are dishonest?
The word dishonest implies premeditation. I don’t think today’s leftists are evil or dumb. I think the hardcore leftists are in a well-intentioned trap that creates a dangerous and frankly annoying “us vs. them” mentality in which they are convinced, beyond rationale, that they are doing good, which is all that really matters to them.
It creates a left=moral good paradigm in their heads. Where, like I said, the left can’t do anything wrong because the left=good.
I mean, look at how they talk about centrists, who are not really their enemy. They’re supposed to be the people you try to persuade, but the left has gone so religiously dogmatic that even centrists are almost as bad as Nazis (e.i. right-wingers)
Look, I’m fundamentally with you. The right-wing is capable of terrible, horrific things. They’re more dangerous historically. You’ll get no argument from me man. Some of it makes me sick. I believe that morals and values should be a part of politics too. I’m no stranger to leftism either, I was extremely interested in it for quite a while.
But I know a trap when I see it. Clearly something is going here, fucking socio-economics is becoming a religion.
That’s why I cited an objective, historical definition of leftism: so that I can say that no, the people you’re talking about are not leftists, because they don’t fit this definition. They may call themselves leftists, but that doesn’t make it so, any more than Hitler calling himself a socialist, Stalin calling himself a communist, or North Korea calling itself a democratic people’s republic makes it so.
The same goes for religion, by the way. Thumping the Bible doesn’t make you a Christian. Loving thy neighbor does.
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Need another panel where everyone is beating the shit out of the Nazis
Implying the majority of the Gadsden types don’t fly a different flag when no one’s looking.
It is sad how the Gadsden flag has been appropriate, and is now almost synonymous with fascists, when the point of it was to be anti-authority.
I guess it’s like how the nazis stole and ruined the swastika. Or how jerks on Twitter stole anime avatars.
I used to be a right-libertarian when I was a teenager. I could have seen myself going down the fascist pipeline if I hadn’t been exposed to critiques of capitalism. It’s undeniable that there are problems with society now. We’re a capitalist society that’s been deregulating for decades and things have gotten worse. It’s obvious the problem wasn’t “lack of free-markets”. At this point you either have to reject social progressiveism as the problem or capitalism. Many of my friends chose the former I chose the later. Now everyone here on Lemmy is beating me up.
I just want people to have control over their own lives and a big part of people’s lives are their place of work.
They won’t win. They can’t get a corporate sponsored mod to control Lemmy as it’s decentralized. Just keep calling these losers like OP out and eventually they’ll pick up their toys and go back to their corporate controlled hellscapes like reddit and threads.
I know a couple old school punks that have Gadsden flag tattoos that are such lefties you would blush. It’s a shame what appropriating can accomplish.
They can never wear a wife beater ever again.
I’m all for reclaiming the flag, especially in queer circles where many are facing very real threats of violence. Just because we’re transgender doesn’t mean we’re transtender!
I got a better flag for them. Or really two flags. One black, one red.
Or how jerks on Twitter stole anime avatars.
OMG I’ve never been a part of anime culture or knowledge. But anime avatar def = alt right red pill incel in my mind
Equaled in sus factor only by Roman statues.
Same here in Australia with the Eureka flag.
A shame, it’s a really cool flag.
Time to take it back, they haven’t had it very long.
Or when they are. The Confederate flag is synonymous with the Nazi flag at this point.
I agree, but I haven’t really come across any Nazis on here yet. Maybe they have been all defederated before I saw any.
The most I’ve seen was lemmygrad accusing others of being Nazis… Mostly accusing all Ukrainians of being Nazis with no real evidence, other than a very small minority of the population that are wannabe neo-Nazis (true of almost every country).
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Scratch a liberal and a fascist will bleed.
What’s wrong with you people? You’re cheering on fascists when they beat up communists? Shouldn’t you help instead?
The Gadsden flag is often used by white supremacists…
Yes, but it’s also associated with libertarian types who used to populate Reddit back in the day before it became mainstream.
I remember the Ron Paul spam back in 2012…
libertarian
So. As he said, white supremacists.
I’ve never equated libertarians with white supremacists. When I think of libertarians I think of 22 year old techbros (old enough to have money but too young or sheltered to have experienced hardship that adulthood brings) who wanna smoke weed and think the fire department should be a PaaS startup. I get mine and what do you mean it’s not realistic dude
I would recommend looking more into it. Libertarianism at its actual fundamental, and not the heavily skewed incorrectly labeled types being seen here, is about freedom of the individual from oppression of tyranny and inefficient bureaucracy. The ability to live your life without determined rules set forth by a governing body that has long forgotten the plight of the common man.
You can even take two seconds to look at Wikipedia for the aggregated definition and see it’s about liberty and personal autonomy. Often you’ll hear, I don’t agree with what you say but I’ll die for your right to say it. Libertarians don’t have to personally accept what you do, but they fundamentally believe the state should not interfere with it.
This is why rule of law and cosmopolitanism are such fundamental values, as if the state is not allowed encroachments on personal liberty, it’s left to the citizenry to use the free market of ideas in determining what is acceptable or not.
Ancaps are an entirely different breed and are extremist in their views. Conflating them is like conflating a Tankie with a Social Democrat.
Can normal people who just don’t like being tread on not have anything?
As far as I’m aware, the Gadsden flag has it’s origins as a warning against the British when the American colonies started to get their shit together and become ungovernable. It seems like it might be a good time to start flying it again just about worldwide.
No, if one man I don’t like uses a thing it immediately means you completely agree with everything he’s ever said or done, or will in the future.
That’s why I hate vegetarians, Hitler was a vegetarian.
They can have whatever they want, but you’ll have to forgive people for thinking that you align with people who display the same symbols as you.
I assume anyone flying a swastika is antisemitic, when to be fair, they might just be a fan of the Nazi stance on affordable housing and infrastructure.
If you have a problem with symbols you identify with being co-opted by people you don’t, take it up with the people you disagree with who took your symbol, not the people who also disagree with them.
“Can normal people who just don’t like being tread on not have anything”
Ask the white supremesists if you can have it back
They’re not gonna voluntarily give it back, so why not just take it like they did? Let’s say they start flying rainbow flags, should the LGBT community just give up the rainbow flag? I’ve noticed a trend where the alt-right widely adopts a symbol and the left just kinda… let’s them have it. Why? I don’t get it. If you don’t want them to have a symbol, then don’t allow them to become the exclusive users of it.
I’ve been saying this for years. What happens is they let their leftist friends bully them into not using it for fear of appearing right wing, and the right wing wins it. Honestly if the right ever figures out they have this power it’ll be…interesting…
Young people indoctrinated to socially pressure their peers into following a strict moral code. The parallels are so on-the-nose that it’s almost funny.
The Moral Majority horseshoe theory is real as fuck.
What exactly do they win? What do left people lose? It’s not like the LGBT movement is the rainbow flag. It’s just a symbol, and if it weren’t there’d be another one. This whole fighting for a thing makes sense only if there weren’t infinite equivalent alternatives.
But to be fair it’s really hard to co-opt the symbol of a wholly opposed group.
That’s basically what happened with the word “libertarian”. It originally meant libertarian socialist.
We’ve been surrendering words to the right for at least a century and it hasn’t gone well. Every time the public decides a right wing idea is trash, the right rebrands the idea.
They’re coming for “anarchist” next with monarchism rebranded as “anarcho”-capitalism.
Ancaps pretty much only exist in the US so elsewhere libertarian still means the original definition.
A word cannot be defined as a subset of itself.
We don’t get many around these parts. I’m in Australia. I just think it’s a kickass flag. A simple message, delivered with limited space.
We’re not asking. We’re taking the Gadsden Flag back whether they or anyone else likes it or not. It’s our flag, not theirs.
The word idiot had its origin in not being elected to the senate or alike and yet you seem to be an idiot when you argue with origins instead of usage by white supremacists.
Scratch a liberal and a fascist will bleed.
I recently just read that somewhere
Me too. Because he posted the damned comment twice.
Zebras have hooves, but not all hoofed animals are zebras.
Is that the “diver down” looking flag?
Diver down is a red flag with a white diagonal stripe, the red and black flag is Anarcho-syndicalist.
Ty. I was also wondering about the Ted/Black flag.
Hitler also drank water.
It’s more akin to the swastika. It was in use before Nazis started using it. But if you see someone showing one these days, there is a much higher chance that they are signaling their hate. The Gadsden flag is used pervasively on the far right and with white nationalists. There are certainly people who fly it that are not in those categories but it has definitely been co-opted by hate groups.
Unfortunately. I had a license plate of it because I liked it and it was yellow, which is my favorite color.
Then I finally broke free of the brainwashing required to be right wing and it had to go. I had to go to a plate that was only half yellow, but if rather do that than be lumped with them.
Personally, the cunts that would lump me in with white supremacists because I have a Don’t Tread On Me license plate aren’t worth the effort to appease. They’d have to be brainwashed themselves.
A little step, but an important one.
The none nazi swatstika turns left
The Nazis used both types.
Source?
1934 festival in Bückeberg
That’s why I only drink Coca-Cola and Root beer
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When have “libertarians” ever won a physical fight anywhere lol. We have actual revolutionaries who fought on the frontlines like Che and Castro, Lenin, Ho Chi Minh, Mao.
you have this goofy cartoon
In what world are the libertarians winning on the MLs lol. The only reason you feel like you’re winning on us is because any time we start making a little too much sense we get defederated – wouldn’t want your users to be exposed to conflicting ideas now would you ;)
I mean yeah. Welcome to the internet. Lemmy is pretty okay, all things considered.
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The pirates are missing here
It’s funny how things turned out, Lemmygrad.ml was one of the first instances to ever federate with Lemmy.ml
If there is one small, tiny thing that many leftists and rightists can agree on, it’s fuck tankies.
Fuck authoritarians, whether they consider themselves left or right.
Except right wingers LOVE them some authoritarians. Which is why they “back the blue”
Don’t tread on me things
Curious if you could elaborate. Authority is complicated. Perhaps you should read this relatively short text by Engels.
Agreed. Fuck tankies.
Can you define tankie?
Fuck tankies
Oh yes please 🥵
Same admins…
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They are the same people. And its quiet obvious. There is no other reason why lemmyml still federates with lemmygrad, every major instance blocked them.
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Real? Big L in my opinion.
So sad you can’t get your way.
Cope.
Aside from it being “obvious,” is there proof? Not defederating is not a clear indication or proof in my mind.
I’m not disputing that it may be true. Just curious what the actual evidence might be.
Weren’t they both pointing to the same server at some point or was that incorrect?
I actually don’t know. And I’m not sure that would prove who the current admins are, and whether they’re one in the same.
It’s the same picture
You folks have just been taking advantage of our civility lol, look at how the hexbearians are destroying your fronts everywhere.
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