Atlanta-area prosecutors investigating efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia are in possession of text messages and emails directly connecting members of Donald Trump’s legal team to the early January 2021 voting system breach in Coffee County, sources tell CNN.
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Just adding that no one is obligated to continue to be a republican, loyalty to a political party is a recipe for totalitarianism.
It’s so fucking strange too. It’s like they brought this new TV and they’ll be damned if they’re going to be told it doesn’t work as well as advertised. I would think we could all unite about this, and we could show the world that not even the president can evade justice. But instead they’re still selling him hard.
Republicans: {smacks Donald’s ass} “This baby here can fuck up at least 10 democracies.”
A big part of many Republicans’ mindsets seem to be “how dare you tell me I’m wrong! Just for that, I’m going to double down!” Like I’ve seen it in things as petty as Republicans being told they’re using a comma the wrong way and then continuing to use it that way out of spite.
Basically, it’s too embarrassing for them to admit that they’ve been played/conned.
We watched Trump go on national TV before the election and asked Russia to help him win the election. A foreign hostile country was invited to interfere with our democracy.
And Russia complied. That day.. How anyone thinks Trump and his supporters aren’t traitors is mine boggling.
People should have realized this when the only change to the platform is “go easier on Russia”.
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Don’t forget Cambridge Analytica. Social Media with the help of Ai will help them to guide us and we’ll be more productive for them.
America needs a new conservative party so that the republicans who are still sane don’t feel like crazy town is their only option to avoid being disenfranchised.
You have a new Conservative party, it’s called the Dems, what you need is a new progressive party to catch up with the rest of the developed world.
Jezus America are you ok? So about half your country are traitors as far as the other half is concerned? I’m not condemning or anything but fighting amongst yourselves like this is not going to work either.
It’s not half, more like about 1/3, but it’s also a little more complicated than that. Basically it’s all the fault of the first past the post voting system. Because of that, the only winning strategy is a two party system, any party beyond the main two only functions as a spoiler for one of the two. As such, a lot of different policies that aren’t really connected in any way end up mashed sort of arbitrarily into one of those two parties. Republicans due to events in the Nixon presidency ended up latching onto evangelical Christians, policies that favor the rich at the expense of the poor and middle class (usually spun as fiscally responsible), and racists (lots of overlap between evangelical Christians and racists, so that’s almost redundant). Over the years the economic policies have gotten a fresh coat of paint by way of the debunked trickle down economics theory which was used as a rallying cry to oppose any regulations such as environmental and pollution controls, or policies that favored the public at the expense of corporations because the “free market” would solve all problems. Democrats then embraced essentially the opposite of all of those positions, so wound up with socially progressive policies almost by default as reactions to the policies being pushed by the racists. This is for instance how Democrats ended up being pro-choice, as the Republicans had taken an anti-abortion stance at the urging of the extreme elements of their Christian demographic.
Ironically we’ve come full circle now with Republicans ending up with many policies by default in reaction to policies being pushed by Democrats. The Republicans of today are mostly defined not by any particular policy or goal other than their historical ones and a broad opposition to all policies pushed by Democrats. They general don’t have a stance on a policy until they hear what the Democrats position will be at which point they take up whatever the opposite of that is. This is part of how Republicans ended up as the party of the gun nut. The Democrats in the late 80s and early 90s attempted to pass some gun regulations which angered the largest gun manufacturer lobbying group, the NRA, who then spent the decades since then painting the Democrats as wanting to repeal the second amendment and disarm the American public. This in turn has led the Republicans to fully embrace removing and opposing any regulations on guns.
As the generations that grew up in a segregation era US are dying off though the Republicans are finding themselves with increasingly diminished support for their racist policies. Compounding that is that decades of free market policies and consistent push back and removal of regulations has demonstrated that the “free market will sort it out” claims are complete bullshit and just leads to things getting worse, not better, at least to anyone who has been remotely paying attention. As a result we’ve recently seen the Republicans pivot to embrace anti-diversity policies such as opposition to pro-LGBTQ policies (once again driven at least initially by their religious extremists) as well as policies designed to white-wash past racism and push a revisionist American history that paints the American civil war as primarily being motivated by disagreements about the structure of the US government rather than about opposition to ending slavery.
Forty years ago the Republicans were an even mix of racists and conservative economic policies. These days they’re mostly just the racists and a small minority of true believers in trickle down economics. Since they no longer have the numbers to win elections legitimately they’ve increasingly embraced various anti-democratic policies that allow them to retain control. Until recently, relatively “normal” tricks like gerrymandering and voter suppression in conjunction with a generally lukewarm support for Democrats (who have had their own issues of late, mostly around running profoundly milquetoast candidates) have allowed the minority of Republicans to maintain control. Now that even that no longer appears to be enough to keep them in power they’re increasingly turning to outright illegal activities like voter fraud and as we saw on the 6th, insurrection. While not every person who votes Republican takes part in or even supports such illegal activities, it’s quickly approaching the point at which they will need to confront the fact that those tactics have become a core part of their parties policies, so continued support for the party is tacit approval of such tactics. Many of them no doubt will continue to support the Republican party under a ends justifies the means stance, but hopefully the misguided ones who legitimately believe in trickle down economics can be convinced that such tactics are a bridge too far.
You’ll be the first against the wall. The useful idiots are always the first to go.
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This statement is trying to go for neutrality in the same way that asking a woman clutching a black eye “What did you say to him?” is just gathering information.
That is: it’s not, we see through it, and we’re tired of it.
Lol because the first thing that comes to mind when people hear “USA” is “healthy”
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You guys are 31 trillion in debt. You aren’t rich, you’re just borrow money you can’t pay back and keep increasing your debt limit.
It’s nice spending money that’s not yours until the lenders get fed up about the lack of payments and you default and go into bankruptcy. I cannot wait until the US debt situation explodes, watching from half way around the world.
And yes I’m aware pretty much every nation is in debt, but not to the extent the US is. But the US is by far the most in the hole.
I don’t know why Americans think they’re hot shit. You’re literally just an echo chamber the rest of the world laughs at.
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The worst part is the US is in so much debt but it’s citizens see none of the benefits of that spent money.
I think your downvotes are from fucking liberals that think the US has regained international respect because their team is now in charge. MAGA or BlueMAGA are cut from the same cloth as Republicans and Democrats.
Sticks and stones, you can call me a horse as well and it doesn’t mean I whinny.
Sincerely, a card carrying Republican
You choosing to continue to support that political party after all of this nonsense shows a lack of moral fibre.
Whinnying would probably contribute more to the conversation though.
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There hasn’t been a sincere Republican since McCain died, you’re a fascist.
You mean the same McCain that was in Ukraine with Victoria Nuland setting the stage for war?
After Crimea was invaded by Russia? Later when he was trying to convince everyone Russia was going to do exactly what they did last year? “setting the stage for war” is something you do before a war.
2014 came before 2022, so yes, setting the stage for the proxy war currently going on.
Can you articulate your stand on Russia?
Please specifically explain if you are for the war in Ukraine and if you think anyone is winning.
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Shush. Adults are talking.
Card carrying shockingly gullible moron.
You all whinny all the time, the fuck are you talking about?
They are so mad they cheated and still lost. This country is going to take so long to heal after this. It really makes me sad.
its amazing how much back and forth happens the richer you are in the legal system. one woman accidentally voted twice, straight to jail.
donald trump indicted 3 times, and god knows how many other terrible things . days in jail : 0
2 sets of laws. which one do you think you fall under?
One could afford bail of course. Because we let rich criminals buy their way out of sitting in jail.
Trump hasn’t even needed to pay bail yet.
When those whom society rewards don’t respect the law
No one will respect the law.
She didn’t even accidentally vote twice, she was sentenced to 8 years for the crime of completing a provisional ballot while the state figured out if she was eligible to vote or not.
Which is what she specifically asked about and was told to do by the voting officials.
Is Trump rich though?
If he wasn’t before he was elected, he certainly is now. He put personal profit ahead of absolutely everything while he was President. The grift is strong with this one.
Are we asking him or the IRS?
We haven’t healed from the fucking Civil War. Why would we heal from anything more recent?
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I mean, I don’t disagree with your sentiment but Ive some pretty big reservations. Everywhere in your essay you say America you can sub in NATO, Japan and the rest of the Five Eyes. We’re all implicit. It’s been a coalition of the willing. There’s guilt all around.
That said;
For some, Pax Americana has been a blessing. For most, actually. Billions out of poverty, the most peaceful time to have ever existed, still, today, even with anachronistic territorial war, and crimes of desperation increasing. As of now, 8/23, 86% of the world owns a smart phone. That’s 6.9 billion people.
Thats a long way. I never thought I’d see the day, honestly, where the whole world is online. I just might yet…!
But we’ve blazed quite the path, thru our atmosphere into space and just our atmosphere in general, and we’ll be dealing with that for generations to come.
And as unfortunate as it is, that’s how society has always been built. Recklessly. We strive for better as a species, I consider this a feature not a flaw, but then it makes a mess cuz we don’t know what we dont know, then some of us go big brain, figure it out, fix it or we adapt. It’s endemic. Cultural heros journey.
But yo, if America splits, there will never be peace on the North America continent ever again. America is OP because we span the distance and bridges the gap. We got a dozen deep water ports where other, major, players maybe have one. Other countries have riverS. We essentially got like, One. But it’s navigable, stretches DEEEEEEEP into almost the entire interior. And we’re resource independent.
The idiots who think we’d be better off breaking up deserve their genetics removed from the gene pool so the collective IQ isn’t drug further down by their idiocy. We’re like a giant Madagascar, who folds that hand?
At the same time, id mourn none if it fell. I think we need to federate regionally, and reduce the current fed government down to a combined armed forces and a round table or presidents, not a single one. Fucking Cascadia Unite (Canadas barely holding their shit together too, BC would totally be down).
Shit id get behind giving the cosplaytriots, err, I mean, fascists, err, I mean republi…no, fascists is more accurate. (Republicans know as much about Republicanism as they know about their bible, which is jack.fucking.shit) the south too, no need to secede! Name it Kekistan, forcibly send them all there, and let them build their wall. Fucking we should volunteer to pay for it for them, just to make sure it’s more DMZ and less Y’all Quida Convoy tail gating and shooting at sharpie hurricanes.
Wall off their Internet too, like the Mormons in heaven.
But in reality, the problems you speak of, and our inability to address them aren’t due to culture, it’s due to capitalism. Every capitalist country is teetering on the brink right now, because with nothing to keep it humble (like comparing itself to the Soviet Union) capitalism went from a more mixed economy to neoliberalism, which is the rich, generally under the legal catfish called a corporation, cannabalizing any and all value from the world.
Rage is justified. Both sides are in agreement that the upper crust needs to be cut off. Ain’t no war but the class war. #eattherich
The US is already 50 countries. The states have an incredible amount of power over their citizens. They’ve always been a confederation. States engage in trade wars with each other. California, for example, has used its massive economy to influence interstate trade and declare de facto federal laws on several occasions. We have expiration dates because of New Jersey. Some counties entire economy relies on sales to people from neighboring states where certain goods are banned. Texas, infamously, has its own electrical grid and throws a tantrum about seceding every few decades. Utah is one pair of magic underwear away from being a theocracy.
The states have factions and inter state pacts. The thing you’re missing is that constantly fighting with each other is what keeps them together. The US was never and will likely never be a homogeneous culture, and the people who founded it knew that, and encoded laws in such a way as to use that conflict as a source of opposing-force balance.
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Everything you said was sophomoric garbage masquerading as informed thought. I gave it far more attention than it was worth, and I’ve given you far greater time than you deserve.
Keep digging and guaranteed to find the Russians as well.
The most terrifying thing of all is how almost accepted all this is. None of it is particularly shocking. Hard core Republicans will even justify it, possibly even flaunt it. This is how far down the rabbit hole we’ve allowed things to get.
Can’t wait until they trot out “process crimes” again.
Yeah for sure. I have no idea how to fix the republican side either, which is even more disappointing
Maybe this is why its taking so long. Shes gonna file indictment proceedings against them all?
And this will be state charges.
No presidential pardons for you.
Oh wait.
What if Lyndsay Graham is in there lmao. He called Rathensburger ( I think that’s how you spell it) as well.
Graham is up to his ass in this. 20 years ago I thought he was a bigot, but one who had opinions worth listening to on national security and military affairs.
What a sad little wrinkled balloon he turned out to be. Hope his ass gets indicted too.
If anything, Graham loves things in his ass.
I think he’s Ace actually. He’s just never seemed like a sexual being at all, like he was carved out of fatback at a Daughters of the Confederacy hall.
He’s actually got a codename amongst DC and SC male prostitutes iirc
It’s spelled “Farve”
What? No, it’s spelled “Dwyane”
No presidential pardons for you.
Correct. He will get Republican Governor pardon for this one. Everyone acts like any of these felonies will have consequences. Dudes gonna skate, he needs one dumb red hat in that jury box. One.
Georgia’s governor is a Republican.
Thankfully not a full on trump knob slobber though… Still a piece of shit but thank God for small victories.
”Rudy Giuliani had nothing to do with this,” said Robert Costello, Giuliani’s attorney. “You can’t attach Rudy Giuliani to Sidney Powell’s crackpot idea.”
“Just landed back in DC with the Mayor huge things starting to come together!” an employee from the firm Sullivan Strickler, which was hired by Sidney Powell to examine voting systems in Coffee County, wrote in a group chat with other colleagues on January 1.
Former New York Mayor Giuliani was consistently referred to as “the Mayor,” in other texts sent by the same individual and others at the time.
“Most immediately, we were just granted access – by written invitation! – to Coffee County’s systems. Yay!” the text reads.
Props to the authors of the article, Zachary Cohen and Sara Murray, for the excellent comedic structuring.
Lol you gotta love how they have to write in a way that doesn’t blatantly say “Giuliani obviously lied through his teeth when denying the claims” and instead come up with fun and creative ways to be like “he denied it and here’s the written proof that he’s full of shit.”
'Member how Trump and Roger Stone were instrumental in Bush winning in 2000?
What the FUCK?! I was alive when this happened, remembered all the recounts and buzz about how close it is, and this is still literally the first I’m hearing about it. I didn’t realize just how disconnected from politics my family and circle was. Now I understand the few grumbles I’d hear over the years about how it “should have been gore” I
In the 2000 election in Duval County Florida they threw out over 22,000 votes from the 4 predominately black precincts that trend hard for Dems on the north sdie if Jacksonville. Out of 14 disctricts. A machine discarded these votes and the receipts for count machines were discarded similar to other counties that rushed to discard recorded evidence.
https://www.salon.com/2000/11/13/duval/
The Secretary of State that ultimately certified the faked vote tallies was Katherine Harris, under the Governor, Jeb “Please clap” Bush, brother of Bush Jr. It was a full rat fuck scenario.
How the fuck is it even possible for a political party to steal an election and we all just roll over and take it because the Supreme Court sided with them?
I thought the system was ours to use as we please, not them.
FWIW Bush Jr. was showered with abuse and had eggs thrown at him and he had to abandon the traditional walk to the Capitol at his inauguration, and he was deeply unpopular at the start of his term. Only 911 bailed him out.
But it never should have even gotten that far. The people should have revolted and did the election over again.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned it’s that the revolution will not be televised, because it isn’t coming.
Your best hope is to pray the aliens come and take us away from this place, leave the corpos, let them do with the Earth what they want.
This is not a realistic thing to hope for.
The revolution is whenever people quit doing whatever the tv tells them and start unionizing/growing their network of relations to demand change.
I remember demanding revolution as a college kid on Reddit and getting torn out for it. It’s part of why I hate Reddit. And of course I was right, but they didn’t want to listen because they either secretly agreed with the authoritarianism or they only cared about being able to keep going to McDonald’s and 7-11.
Our people have turned out to be so disgusting and disappointing. I honestly wonder if I shouldn’t expatriate.
This world is lost, all that’s left is to hope for the next life to be more than a fantasy.
Unfortunately I’ve heard it all before “The Right is just being given enough rope to hang themselves, these are the death cries of an old system” or “Eh, Donald Trump’s a joke, those really in command already have it set for Hillary” or “People will revolt this time for REALSIES! They’ve just gone too far THIS TIME!” or “We’ll find a way if it comes to that.”
I pray for death, and for death to not be the end, the world is already lost.
The only thing more powerful than your electorate is the power of the dollar.
🤔 I wonder how it is the Founding Fathers didn’t think to take that into account.
Corporations are people, my friend!
As long as politicians appoint the judges they’ll be in their pocket to maintain their bright careers.
🤔 Maybe all judges should be elected.
Think of it as one party with two major wings inside it.
Neither wing will usually go too hard on the other side because they’re just there for show.
Democrats, as a party, think that way. Republicans absolutely hate Democrats, though, and would light them all with gasoline if they could.
The plebs on both side think like that. The actual eminences gris don’t.
I’m not a fan of either of those individuals. I know Stone has claimed to have played a part (he claims a lot of things and frankly I don’t trust a word that comes out of his mouth), but are you saying Trump was tied to the Brooks Brothers riot in 2000? That’s news to me, and I would be interested to read more about that if you could point me in the right direction.
Classic Republican playbook, start shit and then project it on the enemy to make them look bad
It’s actually an old fascist trick.
It’s really effective too. You always know the horrible things you’re doing before anyone else. So you can always beat the opposition to the accusation.
“You did X!”
“No I didn’t, why would you even think that?”
Months (or years) later when there’s an investigation…
“Hey wait, you actually did X!”
“You’re obviously making it up, everyone knows it’s what you did. People have been talking about you doing it for years!”
“This corruption goes all the way to the top! of my office… cough cough cough”
If she has a winnable case, the D. is fuuuuuucked.
Only if they also have evidence that the orders for it came from him. Otherwise it is similar to the shit with Michael Cohen: he can claim he expected lawyers to follow the law.
That is what they have to prove. Will have to see.
Nope. He’ll never spend a day in jail. Nothing has seemed to slow him down. He’s been effectively martyred in political history, and the longer he stays relevant, the greater chance he gets in.
Lock him the fuck up. Also, you better believe that republicans are in some pizza shop basement raping and mutilating kids. Every accusation is a confession. 100% of the time.
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Ok now do the Republican Senators that helped the coup like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Boebert etc
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Wait… there’s a Coffee County in Georgia?
There’s a whole damn Waffle House of counties.
Early, Cook, Crisp, Bacon, and Coffee are all GA counties.
As a now-westerner, the only explanation I can come up with is that it’s a job-creation scheme for crooked sheriffs.
(We got a few of those out here too mind you, seems to go with the job)
Shit for a while you had the pick of the litter out there: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio
Georgia has more counties than any other state*. We’re fuckin’ overflowing with counties 'round here!
(* Edit: except Texas, which I forgot about, but which doesn’t count because having a lot of counties makes sense for a huge state)
Holy shit, you’re not lying. Texas has 254, Georgia is in second place with 159:
What exactly was the breach? There is no detail about what data was accessed or who accessed it in the entire article.
I’m here for it!
How many charges is “Mr. President” going to get?
