But all the chiding scolds on TV assured me that violence is never the answer. 🤔
The owners think this would send a message.
I’m not sure they realize that message would be Martyr.
He looks kinda badass with so many cops and the freaking mayor behind him like they’re his entourage, or like he so dangerous that they need 30 men to control him.
I’d say this “perp walk” backfired.
It’s like if the cops captured the King Pin. Does it take 50 cops to escort 1 prisoner
I’ve seen The Fugitive AND US Marshalls. They need at least 50 cops!
I couldn’t be bothered to give a fuck about this man’s crime when the thing he killed was a mass murderer.
More justice than the justice system can allow
Ju$tice.
It’s funny that you talk about Mass murderers because when the alt right talks about Mass murderers that align with their skin colors it’s usually apologetic
Left v right is a distraction from the actual class war being wages on us by the wealthy elite
They might have the same skin color, but to them they are the poors, aka inhuman.
I must admit I’m in my cups right now, but I feel like To the maga proletariat, I don’t even think they go as deep as that. To them it’s more like in group out group thinking, which means you don’t look like me or talk like me so fuck you
Kyle Rittenhouse is free and enriching himself from his crime…
The victim doesn’t matter unless they are worth millions of dollars or stand to help others win or loss millions.
When you think about it … the system isn’t protecting people, whether they are rich or not … the system is just thinking about protecting wealth and capital.
The system protects the flow of tax dollars.
Because that’s what it consumes to survive.
Well, as long as you mean the flow of tax dollars coming from the poor and middle class. The system specifically protects the corporations and wealthy from paying their share of tax dollars
It protects land owners not renters.
It protects employers not employees.
Sometimes Lemmy is dumb.
Bro really called someone else dumb after missing the point that hard.
Bro really failed to read, twice.
Then why do billionaires and corporations get so many tax breaks and subsidies while also getting the most protection and favorable legislation?
Because it protects them.
Can you not read?
Right. It protects them, not the flow of tax dollars. This seems to be a difficult concept for you. Maybe Reddit is more your pace.
It protects someone like bezos because he has employees whose income (used to) far outpace what the wealthy would contribute.
So they were (and still are) protected.
Sorry you’re having so much trouble with this.
I’m not. I’m just getting a kick out of the unnecessary ad hominem attacks. It makes it your point, well, pointless.
I dunno, he may be free—but he’s not doing too much enrichment. No one wants anything to do with him because he’s an idiot, and not the useful kind.
They want to send a message: violence against those in the oligarchic hierarchy will not be tolerated.
They ain’t seen nothing yet if they make this dude a martyr. I’m not a violent person, but there’s a pent up frustration inside a lot of us just itching for a reason to come out and redistribute some wealth. Stock of United Healthcare still in the shitter? That was rich people losing billions.
That’s the only thing these parasites care about: their life and their money. We have been shown that any of us have the power to take away both in a single act of targeted violence. Once we collectively realize that, shit will go down.
Martyr? You mean
SAINT LUIGI OF BALTIMORE!
Not guilty on all charges, your honor.
Welp, if we have nothing to lose…
Haha, yes they filed charges.
Now find 12 New Yorkers to agree he’s guilty.
Gonna be real funny when it turns out they arrested the wrong guy.
The federal complaint filed Thursday charges Mangione with two counts of stalking and one count each of murder through use of a firearm and a firearms offense. Murder by firearm carries the possibility of the death penalty, though federal prosecutors will determine whether to pursue that path in coming months.
In a state court indictment announced earlier this week, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s office charged Mangione with murder as an act of terrorism, which carries a possible sentence of life in prison without parole. New York does not have the death penalty.
Mangione’s lawyer, Karen Friedman Agnifilo, said it’s a “highly unusual situation” for a defendant face simultaneous state and federal cases.
“Frankly I’ve never seen anything like what is happening here,” said Friedman Agnifilo, a former top deputy in the Manhattan district attorney’s office.
Unfortunately it’s becoming more common, and it is legal
I understand the overlords have requested this guy get every charge and penalty that he can, but they have to understand that the general population sympathizes with him on some level.
The overlords don’t have to request shit, Eric Adams already gave them the keys.
This is the Forbes profile entry for the NYPD commisoner’s dad, she’s never worked in law enforcement before btw
https://www.forbes.com/profile/james-tisch/
You may notice this part:
James is CEO of Loews. His brother Andrew and cousin Jonathan are co-chairmen.
Loews is active in insurance, drilling rigs, natural gas pipelines and hotels.
The NYPD commissioner is the daughter of a billionaire CEO that’s active in the insurance industry…
Absolutely no one had to request she act like this
Loews, the hardware, home improvement and highly flammable lumber stores?
Nah, that’s Lowes.
And off the top of my head, a pretty decent corpo all things considered.
Loews is however coincidentally headquartered in NYC
highly flammable lumber stores
Stares nervously at the water heater closet we just built in the basement.
Absolutely no one had to request she act like this
They won’t give him the death penalty. They would have fucking riots on their hands.
There won’t be any riots. The reason this guy acted at all is because the people are too cowed. There are thousands of people in the same position as him, but none of them are taking any action. Tens of thousands more are in a similar position, but are they already in the streets? No.
This guy is a celebrity because he’s doing what everyone wishes they could do, but are afraid to do themselves. The quick arrest and trial are to remind people of what will happen to them, too, if they step out of line.
I feel like the statistical chances this is the only guy, even just in the USA itself with a 300 million plus population, capable and willing to do this would be insane. This was domino one, we’re just waiting on the who/what domino two is.
Bruh…
They want riots. Didn’t you pay attention to BLM?
They’re absolutely desperate for some shit to pop off so they can call people against the American healthcare industry a violent mob.
They want anything other than a repeat
It’ll wait until Trump comes in the declare martial law, allowing him to bypass future elections until resolved… Or some bullshit.
I disagree.
They don’t want riots. Riots are the last thing they want. This whole trial will be a show of force and bullying from them. It will be to make an example of him to try and cower the rest of us into submission.
I guess we’ll find out.
What?
We already found out if they’re going for it, they are.
Do you think they’ll get the death penalty and not enforce it?
Like, I don’t understand what you think we’ll find out later. Or why we haven’t crossed your personal threshold for them wanting the death penalty yet.
That’s how it works, yes. Somebody being eligible for the death sentence doesn’t mean that the prosecution is going to push for it or that the jury will decide it is warranted versus life in prison or some other sentence.
Penalties for being found guilty of a crime are “up to” whatever the max is. You don’t automatically get the max.
The reason they included the spurious terrorism charge is that’s what takes it to murder 1 and the death penalty…
I’m sorry, I assumed everyone was up to speed, I shouldn’t have.
That’s the state charge, and the state does not have the death penalty. The federal charge of murder with a firearm carries the potential for the death penalty.
Non-action on the part of a government can also be characterized as a form of political violence, such as refusing to alleviate famine or otherwise denying resources to politically identifiable groups within their territory.
I think that was a foregone conclusion. I also think he was probably fully aware of that before he shot the gun.
I’m sure he was aware of it being a possibility. Hopefully he won’t have to be martyred that way.
