In his speech declaring victory in the U.S. presidential election on Nov. 6, Donald Trump made no mention of Ukraine yet alluded to just how consequential his second term in office will likely be for the country ravaged by Russia’s invasion.

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How does Trump plan to stop Russia’s war against Ukraine?

That’s the million-dollar question that is undoubtedly being discussed in capitals worldwide, not least in Kyiv and Moscow.

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  • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    He doesn’t. He’s going to pull back and let Russia do their genocide thing. It’s why he blocked Ukraine aid before this started, too.

    Same for Gaza, and probably Taiwan as well.

    • thefartographer@lemm.ee
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      11 days ago

      “Sure, I knew that voting for Trump meant more and worse genocides including on American soil, but I expected it from him. Seeing a genocide under Kamala Harris’s tenure as not-president made me worry she wouldn’t actually help once she became president. And then I’d be disappointed. Why would I want to possibly be disappointed when I can instead experience horrors that meet expectations?”

      - Probably a couple million people who shot their foot with their own cut-off nose as ammunition

        • wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world
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          11 days ago

          Never mattered to the Democrats either. No matter who has been in power America’s geopolitical ambitions are all that mattered. To Trump, he is the only thing that matters.

          • Skiluros@sh.itjust.works
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            11 days ago

            While this is true, with the US, their geopolitical ambitions have sometimes aligned with positive developments (Germany, Japan, the Baltic nations and Poland in relatively more recent times). The same cannot be said for say Russia or China.

            • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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              11 days ago

              The same cannot be said for say Russia or China.

              How so? Russia doesn’t really have global ambitions anymore, but China is invested in seeing a larger global middle class and a weaker Western neocolonial hold over Africa. This can and has lead to positive developments.

                • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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                  11 days ago

                  Huh? Okay you’ll need to provide some evidence if you’re saying it’s anything as neocolonial as what France is doing to these countries.

                • wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world
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                  11 days ago

                  China’s engagment in Africa is just as neocolonial as Western engagement if not more

                  How so?

                  China is building infrastructure, creating jobs and giving African nations the tools they need to develop thus creating wealth. What does China get out of it? Markets - a place to sell the products the make. That is quite a bit different from the western policy of enriching despots, plundering mineral wealth and leaving the countries to fester and rot.

          • IcePee@lemmy.beru.co
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            11 days ago

            Trump’s vision is so myopic that he can’t see beyond his own nose. Same for is ability to care. If the US reneges on promises made as detailed in the Budapest Memorandum what chance will they have in other such promises. Countries are watching. This is doubly ironic as Trump keeps talking about nuclear war.

      • Skiluros@sh.itjust.works
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        11 days ago

        We will almost certainly see more bad news in context of global democracy and rise authoritarianism/plutocracy. Unfortunately, it seems that the US is entering a permanent oligarch-fueled “bread and circuses” phase (Big Macs and iPhones for the modern equivalent?).

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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      11 days ago

      On the other hand, I could see him throwing a massive fit about Taiwan because “Chi-nah” and starting a war.

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        11 days ago

        Damn, that already feels like a million years ago. You didn’t have to be a news junkie like me to see that quote and know that Trump lost the only debate the coward showed up to. Literally unfit to lead. Yet people just said “don’t care, want boot!” and voted him in anyway. So embarrassed for my stupid country…

    • BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee
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      11 days ago

      I don’t even think it’s that deep. Same thing happened in 2016. “I know how to end the war in the middle east, i know more than the secret service.”

      And americans shake their fat fists, “yeah, i know more than the secret service too, and i know how to end the middle east conflict. We have so much in common”

      • fluxion@lemmy.world
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        11 days ago

        It’s definitely at least that deep. Russia didn’t go into overdrive trying to elect him because they think he’s going to be tougher on them than Biden.

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    11 days ago

    He doesn’t have a plan. 🤣

    Jesus people, it’s just campaign pillow talk. He has no fucking clue what to do.

    • lost_faith@lemmy.ca
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      11 days ago

      well, he could cut off the supplies that are being sent to this pointless conflict and send em to Bibi. This solves both problems by removing both Ukraine and Palestine from the world as problems. A master plan that takes no real thought

      eta: wow, I hope this hate keeps coming. Personal attacks on someone on your side is great

      • kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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        10 days ago

        I really hope that was intended as sarcasm and that you simply omitted the /s

        • lost_faith@lemmy.ca
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          11 days ago

          Wow, civility or what??? I am behind both the Palestinians and the Ukrainians, just pointing out what i think is the OBVIOUS action he is going to take.

          I hope you have a very wonderful day

          • LwL@lemmy.world
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            Tbf the sarcasm in ur original comment was very easy to miss because some people really think that way

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              11 days ago

              You see my name? It does have meaning, and i really don’t care if they see it or not

              Enjoy your day, I’m eating popcorn

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                11 days ago

                From your reaction you clearly care lmao but sure enjoy ur metaphorical popcorn

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            10 days ago

            I don’t think incivility deserves civility in return, but apparently you were being sarcastic? It’s hard to distinguish because people unironically say the same things you did.

            • lost_faith@lemmy.ca
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              10 days ago

              I was being a little sarcastic in my first post, tho I do believe that is what is going to happen and I am not happy but have no power over your government. I was being civil in response as I didn’t want to get into a “slap fight” and banned, you know that pesky rider under rule 5. I have so lost faith in the human race

              • kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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                I was being a little sarcastic in my first post,

                Your mistake was not using the /s to indicate that.

                Poe’s law is a thing.

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    11 days ago

    I’m sure he has a peace plan.

    The plan is for Putin to take a big peace of Europe and call it Russian territory.