EDIT: I’m interested in how a free Palestine would play out in terms of what that would mean for women, gays, children, people of non-muslim religions, in terms of personal freedoms, etc. For the average citizen/denizen what would that look like?

  • cheese_greater@lemmy.worldOP
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    2 months ago

    Thats a very interesting case example. I will have to learn more about Turkey, altho it seems like the Democratic part is doing a lot of heavy lifting relative to what I’ve heard about Turkey being like Hungary in terms of democratic realities. It is impressive that they don’t have the usual antihomosexuality laws and hangups other Muslim nations have.

    Then again, they probably couldn’t be part of EU with something like that on the books, no?

    • SunlitSorceress@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Then again, they probably couldn’t be part of EU with something like that on the books, no?

      It’s got nothing to do with the EU because it goes back hundreds of years. Ireland joined the EEC 21 years before legalising the gay.

      the usual antihomosexuality laws and hangups other Muslim nations have.

      This is overstated by liberals who want to create a “West = pro-gay”, “Rest = anti-gay” narrative

      I’m not sure it has ever been true that the Woids love gays and the Muslims hate them.

      PDF warning: “Europeans at the beginning of the nineteenth century referred to same-sex relations and homoerotic behavior as the “‘Persian disease,’ ‘Turkish disease,’ or the ‘Egyptian vice’ ””

      Scholars wrote “Persian literature is essentially a homosexual literature”

      Contemporary to this, the Brits are doing Oscar Wilde to death for sodomy. And the Ottomans were gaying it up, creating the modern idea of a Turkish Bathhouse. And which Empire governed Palestine until 1917? And which Empire took it over after that?

      It was the British who passed anti-gay laws in Palestine, it having been legal under Muslim rulers.

      Don’t buy into the liberal idea that Muslim=anti-gay. Have you ever been to Afghanistan? Gayest culture I’ve ever seen.