• Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
    10·
    6 months ago

    I get it. Fuck subscription based licences.

    But I remember that you could keep the last version you subscribed to after subscription ended, which is way better (and the way Adobe products used to work).

    Am I wrong? Or did they change that?

      • 1984@lemmy.today
        1·
        6 months ago

        I thought they let you use the version you used when you started subscribing, not then you ended the subscription? This was something a lot of people were upset about. That if you subscribe for a year and stop, you end up with a year old version.

        • The Octonaut@mander.xyz
          3·
          6 months ago

          https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What-is-a-perpetual-fallback-license

          You’re both half right.

          You get the version at the time of your subscription (plus bugfixes). Then every time a version has been out for 12 months while you’ve been paying you get that version perpetually (plus bugfixes).

          So it’s 1.0 when you subscribe, you get that perpetually.

          It’s 1.0.1 in your third month, you get that perpetually.

          It’s 1.1 in your fifth month. You get that perpetually after 17 months.

          It’s 1.2 in your eighth month. You get that perpetually after 20 months.

          You unsubscibe at 19 months but retain a perpetual version licence.

          • You started with 1.0
          • You ended with 1.2
          • You have to roll back from 1.2 to 1.1

          Previous version was incorrect. This is why I just distribute our licenses, not procure them!

          • 1984@lemmy.today
            1·
            6 months ago

            Thank you, good explanation. I can see why people get confused since the outcome depends on the subscription length then.

          • elvith@feddit.de
            1·
            6 months ago

            If paying on a monthly basis, as soon as you pay for 12 consecutive months, you will receive this perpetual fallback license providing you with access to the exact product version for when your 12 consecutive months subscription started. You will receive perpetual fallback licenses for every version you’ve paid 12 consecutive months for.

            So, in your example, you unsubscribe in month 15. This means, you paid 14 months so you get to retain the version from month three (which is 12 full paid months to 14). This means a downgrade to 1.0.x and not to 1.2.x

        • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          6 months ago

          Oh, I don’t know which way around it is then actually. I’ve not subscribed before, but a colleague does so it’s possible I’ve misheard or misinterpreted what he said

  • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
    4·
    6 months ago

    Join us now and share the software, you’ll be free hackers, you’ll be free~🎵🎵🎵

    I think what people like is that IntelliJ and PyCharm have FOSS community editions.

  • xia@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    1·
    6 months ago

    Laughs in perpetual fallback version punctuated with a hearty community edition.

  • magic_lobster_party@kbin.run
    1·
    6 months ago

    IntelliJ is great for organizational settings. I would never use it for home use as there are many good free alternatives for that kind of setting.

    Most Adobe tools don’t have any good free alternatives even for home use.

    So jetbrains is “acceptable” because I don’t need to open my own wallet.

    • bort@sopuli.xyz
      2·
      6 months ago

      Most Adobe tools don’t have any good free alternatives even for home use.

      inkscape is on a level with illustrator (maybe even better)

      for drawing: try krita

      if you want to pay money (much much less than for adobe): Affinity is on a level with fotoshop

        • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
          2·
          6 months ago

          Sheesh, FOSS licenses really are the only force in the universe that can stop this nonsense.

          I remember shelling out for Substance indie licenses thinking it would be a good investment. Shortly after they’re:

          • part of the “adobe family” (yaaay! /s)
          • Not gonna make it subscription only, c’mon guys. It’s ok.
          • No seriously, we hear you, you’ll have options! Definitely!
          • Newsletter: Ok we’re subscription only, “Get your keys for the super out of date version because we’re just deleting it from human history now.”
          • SaaS cloud only and you’re gonna like it, peasant.

          Never trusting private software like that ever again.

    • prof@infosec.pub
      1·
      6 months ago

      Another upside of Jetbrains over Adobe is that you can get edu-licenses that allow you to use every software of theirs.

      The best deal our university could get from Adobe was 25% off on Photoshop if at least 200 students bought it.

  • AVincentInSpace@pawb.socialEnglish
    03·
    6 months ago

    name a single jetbrains product that isn’t a worse experience than using vscode plus LSP extensions. i’ll wait

    • DacoTaco@lemmy.world
      3·
      6 months ago

      Dotmemory, dotpeek, ryder, … :)
      I have yet to get my hands on any good memory profiler and il decompiler in vs/vscode that didnt suck.
      Ilspy/dnspy for il stuff, dotmemory is my go to for profiling.
      Source : im a .net/c# desktop developer