• Nobody@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Bernie: Here’s a bill that will help literally everyone. People waste less of their lives at work, and productivity goes up massively for the corporate overlords. There is no downside here for anyone.

    Everyone: Shut up, hippy.

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      8 months ago

      Everyone: Shut up, hippy.

      They’ve been telling him that since he was being arrested for protesting for civil rights and Joe Biden was fighting against school busing…

      Their stupid bullshit hasn’t stopped him yet

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        Bernie is still the only politician I have donated to but to be fair to Biden, bussing was met with violent protests and even black activists criticized it for weakening black communities. There were good reasons to be against that method without being against desegregation.

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      Unfortunately that’s a fairly naive take that fails to consider how most people work in the US- hourly employees would be fucked by this.

      Retail, service, anyone whose not already working 9-5 office jobs; the reality is that they won’t loose pay, but they will loose hours. And you can bet your ass that companies won’t pay more to make up for it.

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          Yup. These “free market” folks conveniently forget that competition is bolstered when there’s a floor. An impartial referee to call balls, strikes, and fouls. A set of rules everyone has to play by, or they don’t get to play at all.

          Also known as regulation.

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        they lose hours but the hourly pay goes up, just like everybody else, no? I haven’t read the bill but I would be surprised if that’s not in there.

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          First off, it needs to be noted that the only mechanism to do that on so large a scale is to increase the minimum wage.

          Which is how they did it in ‘38 when the work week went to 44, and in ‘40 when it when to what it is today.

          The problem is that company are absolutely going to pass that off to customers (aka, the workers… ultimately.) and so really all you’ve done, effectively, is put far more people onto minimum wage.

          Anyone who was above that mimimim? Gets the shaft.

          And people who now are on minimum? Working two jobs to pay for everything (like most people in the bottom quarter are already doing anyhow,) so they don’t really see reduced hours anyway.

          It’s well meaning and it’d be nice, but it needs to be done differently. Unions are strong now. Stronger than they have been since I’ve been working. Join a union. Make the change yourself; eventually it’ll get normalized without the above problems. (Also, better wages, healthcare, workplace safety and everything else Unions get you.)(don’t tell my boss’s boss that. He’s still buthurt from negotiating a new contract.)

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            The problem is that company are absolutely going to pass that off to customers (aka, the workers… ultimately.)

            News flash, they’re going to be raising prices regardless.

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              And they won’t tack that on, too, anyhow?

              Chances are they’ll pass on the costs, increase the price, anyhow, shrink products, and raise prices even more, and then blame the last three on the first.

              Exactly like they’ve been doing.