I am worried about the criminal malice of deep fakes. I’m not worried about deep fakes being difficult to identify (thought that is a possibility), since context is important; rather I am worried about the response to malicious use of deepfakes by governments.

Will governments even attempt to reduce the destructive potential of deepfakes? I’m doubtful considering political corruption.


Deep fakes could be useful tools for people that have difficulties with neurotypically social communication, or just increase acceptance of nonneurotypical communication.

  • @beansniffer@lemmy.ml
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    Will governments even attempt to reduce the destructive potential of deepfakes? I’m doubtful considering political corruption.

    They’ll only start caring when they deepfake a high-ranking politician deep throating a massive horse cock and it begins to affect their electability. Even then they will be too old and technology illiterate to make any meaningful action on it.

    • @DPUGT2@lemmy.ml
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      There’s also an AI that “detects” deep fakes even when they’re real, and your political opponents will use it for plausible deniability.

      Since those whose opinions you care about can’t tell the difference between the two AIs, it doesn’t really matter that one’s real and the other is fake.

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      That is great news. However deepfakes and deepfake detection will become a rat race.

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    I think it could help in movies, I think movies will advance to a level when you 3D scan someone in from the real-world, or based on some images and then you maybe can create movies with artists that are long dead. Keanu said similar stuff already in the Matrix 4 interview. I think that might be a feature and deep-fakes play a role in it.

    Govt. only intervene if there is a direct threat, technology such as deep-fake is per-se no threat as long as everyone can tell what reality is and what not. Assuming someone would fake something e.g. political meeting via deep-fake etc they still can tell this is a fake, because you can check the position or call the real people. So in other words it is easy to bust such fakes.

    In general fakes getting better, tech evolves but counter-measures to spot fakes also evolve which is a natural process. Govt. cannot just ban specific technology whenever they want it to because people would anyway find ways eg. most deep-fake software is open sources, so forking it would be pretty easy and removing something afterwards is pretty pointless.

    I would not worry too much dude.

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      In general fakes getting better, tech evolves but counter-measures to spot fakes also evolve which is a natural process.

      Deepfakes typically use a type of AI called a Generational Adversarial Network (GAN). Oversimplified: When you want to make a deepfake, you create two sets of AIs, one set to create deepfakes and one to detect them. They are pitted against each other and only the best at either are used to derive new versions of each type. This means both the generation and detection methods get better as the system runtime increases, though usually the AIs are only tuned to that one specific instance, so of you set out to create a deepfake that merges hypothetical people Jack and Jill, they can only make deepfakes of Jack and Jill, and not Romeo and Juliet. For Romeo and Juliet, you would have to start the process all over again.

      However, this also raises concerns about how exactly you develop a detector for deepfakes if you’re external to the process of creating them.

  • Jesse
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    … rather I am worried about the response to malicious use of deepfakes by governments.

    While this may be true in some cases, I would be more concerned with the use of deepfakes by political parties (not directly those in power, but the actual party offices) and misinformation generators to skew narratives.