Meanwhile, Trump’s a free man, goose stepping around in his fucking lift shoes, with 91 Federal charges against him. This country is so backwards.
Kind of makes you want to stop obeying laws, doesn’t it?
I once mentioned to my father that most people are likely felons without realizing it because everyone will have violated a whole slew of laws they are unaware of or that are obscure/unenforced. He, being a conservative, became angry with me.
I can probably come up with a dozen felonies and goodness knows how many misdemeanors I’ve committed in my life, and I’m definitely not a menace to society.
None of these are violent or sexual in nature.
Exactly. The worst thing that most people do as far as common laws are concerned is speeding.
The real bad things that happen that are rarely enforced is spousal and child abuse, religious abuse, abuse from certain authorities, etc. These destroy lives.
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God it feels good knowing we can actually say the solution to the world’s ills out loud here. You’d get banned from Reddit and YouTube for saying the people ruining our planet need to stub their toes.
You say that, and poof, 2 hours later that post is mysteriously “removed”.
Weird i can still see it. Does lemmy save comments on a per instance basis or something?just checked it on a different device, fucking hell. people need to leave .world, its just another reddit and has been since i started browsing lemmy.
It was removed here. I can only guess.
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Feel free to say #eattherich rhetoric all you want there. I don’t put up with .world’s blatantly obvious corporate shill shit.
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If by breaking laws you mean setting the financial district on fire with executives still in those soulless highrise pieces of shit than yes, it kinda does. Imagine the world without what we are told to call “elite”.
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I’m a commoner and I haven’t lobbied any lawmakers, so the law still applies to me
Who obeys the stupid laws??
I haven’t set anything on fire yet.
You wouldn’t download a car, a House, two beautiful women or their chi…you know a highrise I mean. You wouldn’t download a highrise or a jet plane or two really hot babes. right?
Is…is this an option? Asking for a casual acquaintance.
I don’t know, have you guys developed the quantum teleportation reflux trackrowave transmission elometer yet? Cuz you’re gonna need at least three of those in a bisiouscope to download anything of value really. And if you’re looking at porn, dude, zoom out until the entire body is in view. It’s a warning you must heed. Otherwise you better figure out how to get rid of body parts if you know what I mean.
I’m just this here: Eco-Defense
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Get out of here troll
Go to bed, you have a 12h shift at 6am tommorow.
I do not, I woke up at 8:50 this morning.
I think the voting system has established that you’re the troll.
I still think it’s you. A lot of foreign actors want the U.S. system to collapse. Maybe you’re not, but your earlier comment sure sounded like it. People are downvoting me bcz they misunderstood what my comment was directed at. I actually agree with the sentiment, but ignoring all of our laws outright is a good way to have no government at all.
Doesn’t it make you feel like the law is less important when all these rich cunts are breaking laws left and right, that would send you to jail real fast, and no one seems to do anything about it?
Don’t forget he pardoned supreme liar and felon Roger Stone who went on to plotting assassinations.
and biden is out running for president too after promising to legalize and police reform and firing staffers for using cannabis
people seem to still support him too
US elections are fucking insane
like watching clones dressed in different skins begging for votes with whatever empty promises they think and know the populace will eat up
Empty political promises are one thing and par for the course. Literally getting away with high treason on several documented accounts and still being able to run for president is another.
It’s a flower that makes people happy and hungry. God fucking damn it. There is no fucking reason to destroy people’s lives over this.
Two reason: Conservatism and Christianity.
I don’t even think that article adequately conveys how thoroughly racist the roots of it is. They don’t even quote the awful things Anslinger said to justify cannabis prohibition.
“There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others.”
“…the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races.”
“Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death.”
“Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men.”
“Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing”
“You smoke a joint and you’re likely to kill your brother.”
“Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind.”
https://fee.org/articles/the-racist-roots-of-marijuana-prohibition/
And then there’s this from Nixon staffer John Ehrlichman:
“The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people,” former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman told Harper’s writer Dan Baum for the April cover story published Tuesday.
“You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities,” Ehrlichman said. “We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”
Nobody has ever been able to explain to me how cannabis use is incompatible with Christianity in any way.
But then again, I don’t expect Christians to be consistent or logical about anything.
Remember that part of the Bible where Jesus was like “forget all the old laws, and just focus on the point, being cool to one another” and then gave a speech about the importance of monogamy? Or when he held the last supper, demonstrating a way to worship without needing a fancy temple, and then said “this is my blood, I’m using a simple cup, but you should always use a gold chalice for this part”. Or how he explained you need a relic of a saint (usually a bit of bone) in every altar or the magic won’t work?
Do you remember the part where Jesus claimed he was the one and only child of a deity? Because when I read it, he called himself “the son of man” and called everyone his brothers and sisters
Jesus was born in July. The Roman sun god had a son, who was sacrificed for the sake of humanity. Want to guess when his birthday was?
There’s a reason why it makes no sense. It’s not the religion you think it is
Reminds me of the Ballarat Bandit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-gBErW4aoY
To put it short, he was a guy who led federal officers on a chase through the desert. They didn’t know who he was, but he was stealing from travelers passing through. It wasn’t far from some US government facilities, and this being not long after 9/11, they’re super worried he’s a terrorist.
Spoiler: he was a Canadian who started growing weed to help his wife’s medical issues. He apparently made some primo bud and started selling it. Naturally, he got caught and was thrown in jail. When he got out, he moved out to the desert and tried to survive on his own.
Jail changed him. He became more paranoid and detached from his family, friends, and society. He wasn’t the least bit dangerous until they threw him in prison.
I’m all for legalized marijuana, but going into another country and breaking their laws is never a good idea. There are places in the world that would be a death sentence.
The guy was clearly mentally unstable after he left prison. He never would have done that in the first place otherwise. And he effectively did get a death sentence for it.
According to the article titled ‘Ballarat Bandit’ lost to family for years, August 4, 2006 for Pahrump Valley Times, Johnston was living in Canada when they were arrested and charged with trafficking marijuana.
Eventually, the couple left Anarchist Mountain and returned to Prince Edward Island, where Rob Johnston had been born and raised. After the birth of her fourth child, Tommi was diagnosed with leukemia and access to medical care became vital. Johnston began cultivating marijuana, discovered he had a knack for it and turned it into a cash crop.
In 1997, when the crop was discovered by Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Johnston was sentenced to two consecutive four-year prison terms. It was then that the couple was legally married, in what Tommi described as an ultimately futile effort on her part to convince him that she would not abandon him.
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There’s one very good reason, according to authoritarians: slave labor. 'Murica.
I don’t understand how 40 years of prison for a non-violent crime isn’t considered to be both “cruel” and “unusual”. It is objectively cruel. I certainly hope that it is also unusual. I certainly hope that there aren’t many more like him, imprisoned for decades for what amounts to personal-use levels of pot. 5.5 lbs of pot when you include the stem and roots isn’t that much and certainly sounds like a personal supply to me.
These people are kept in jail to be used in labor. It’s not about being cruel. It’s about making money in the cheapest way possible. Since Alabama is a hellhole with no workforce they turn to modern day slavery.
Oh it’s both. It’s definitely both, the cruelty and the slave labor, which is cruel in and of itself as well.
It is the most cruel people in the world that hide behind a law book and the pretense of being fair and worse even: past cases.
But since you first have to study for a decade, then kiss ass for a decade or two before even beginning to qualify for ‘JUDGE’ it is not more as normal you will have lost ALL BONDS WITH REGULAR SOCIETY.
If you think 15$+tax+tip is fine for a glass of wine with lunch on a daily basis; you are NOTTTTTTT qualified to speak for the benefit of society : in contrary!
Yeah I think you’re mistaking what a Judges role is. It is merely to uphold the law. The problem in the US is that the role is so politicised that the idea they are legal experts rather than representatives of parties is being lost. They should be representative of society to an extent but ultimately the main qualification is legal experience.
The issue is the law itself and that comes back to the elected politicians in Alabama. It’s a problem of one party rule, and first past the post electoral system plus gerrymandering which means a stagnant political system dominated by one segment of society. The US increasingly looks like a it’s just a large collection of failed democracies.
You don’t specifically need representative judges. You need electoral reform so you have an actual representative democracy, and everything else comes from that.
Judges are “supposed to be” impartial, not representative. That’s one of our many problems. They shouldn’t be conservative or liberal, they should be judges, but people don’t seem to be capable of impartiality, especially ones with any degree of power. Just like men who claim to want to lead really wish to rule. Those who would judge really just want to decide.
The MAKING of the law favors the establishment. I say use the guillotine first, then new laws. Slave master still a slave master now, only the slaves believe they’re free
I’m stating it’s the WRONG ROLE law should NOT be upheld in the same way for poor and rich. For uneducated and the wise.
IT SHOULD NOT BE THE SAME favoring the poor and weak.
HOWEVER IT FAVORS THE EXACT OPOSITE.
It shouldn’t favor anybody.
If anything, it goes to show why legal systems are plain and simply bad ideas and why people need to have the ultimate authority to handle business on their own again. That way, at least, it’s fair, for every man is provided for by either victory, ingenuity, or death.
That will teach m!
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Wtf. If they were growing five hundred plants, 40 years is too much. It’s fucking pot. People get rich selling that shit legally now. Growers should be released.
Bullshit, reported for spreading false information.
there is no record of any previous arrests or charges for Leon Bud Hotchkiss in Alabama¹²³. He was a first-time offender when he was convicted of marijuana trafficking in 2013². He has maintained a clean institutional record since then².
Fucking trump supporters are the worst, you can’t get anything right.
https://www.al.com/live/2011/10/magnolia_springs_marijuana_house.html
Hotchkiss has a drug history and stated that he had been to federal prison on a drug conspiracy charge. He stated that the conspiracy case was about 20 years ago when he lived in Orange Beach, officials said.
Try to overthrow the government- 18 months. Grow plants- life sentence.
America (for the time being), fuck yeah!
Leading the insurrection? Priceless.
Only 18 months?
…Tempting.
Shit of you succeed the. You don’t have to do any time at all
This stuff just makes my blood boil. Those 3 assholes on the parole board are complete sociopaths. There’s absolutely no justice here.
Someday we’ll learn that these types of positions are only ever occupied by sociopaths, psychopaths, sadists, and those full of hate. Then we’ll realize that the institutions they are part of were designed by the same type of people. Then hopefully finally we’ll realize that every state institution was designed by this same group that believes they know the right way for everything and feel entitled to force their ways on everyone else.
Well, political positions, yes. But there are tons of government employees around the country that are just normal people working at a regulatory agency. The overwhelming majority of them. They’re just doing their job.
At least for now. SCOTUS is very close to changing that.
Right, there are many employees of the state with no power, these positions I’d expect are mostly not staffed by dark tetrad types. The DMV though, pretty sure that’s staffed by mostly sadists.
It’s actually a requirement I think.
In WA during lockdown, they requested compassionate release of someone who was paralyzed on half his body and confined to a chair. The DOC decided that he was a threat to society and needed to be kept in the COVID greenhouse.
That law provides several different levels of trafficking, and Hotchkiss was convicted under the lowest level – having between 2.2 lbs and 100lbs. That weight includes all parts of the plant, root and stem and all.
40 years, jesus fucking CHRIST.
I’m 6400km tall if you include the earth under my feet
And extremely heavy…
Damn they’ll never let me on the rollercoaster now…
I’m billions of light years tall if you include the space above my head.
Damn you should play in the NBA
I don’t know if he has the mass to play, he sounds like a lightweight.
Who, actually, believes society is better off for caging this man??
no one. but a great many people like that it happened
The rich for more slave labor?
yeah and general schadenfreude, racism, hippy-bashing and general reefer madness buffonery.
Many–there are people whose lives REALLY suck and they can’t imagine them being better so they want to make others’ lives worse. This is how a significant portion of the population votes.
An old pot grower’s adage goes something like: if the sentencing minimum is for between 1-99 plants, you might as well grow 99.
People like Bud serve as the real life example for this kind of saying sadly.
This is stupid, why is the lowest charge range so big. 2.2 lb to 100 lb that is a huge range and you’re telling me there is ranges higher than that? He already has life in prison the hell do they do with the higher ranges
And dirt they made sure to water.
shitty country to live in
The United States is a fascist hellhole.
Dude should try to overthrow the government and attack some police officers, he’ll be back home in 2 to 5 years
Alabama has an incredible climate for growing outdoor Cannabis, too…
It should literally be everywhere there.
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Or, you know, you could vote Democrats into a super majority, and we could legally remove all the insanely corrupt politicians and judges, and do things like federally legalize weed and pardon non violent weed convictions.
Remember come election time who is responsible for this. Just like actions, elections have consequences.
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Didn’t return your grocery cart? Straight to jail.
“Stray to Yale.”Okay, I actually do agree with this one.
Another reason not to visit Alabama
What could the parole board’s justification for denial possibly be? I don’t see any risk from this guy, unless there’s something more nefarious than 2.2 lbm of pot going on.
The cruelty is the point, as they say.
Guarantee that they looked nowhere beyond the actual text of the law and didn’t consider anything else. This is only “it’s illegal because we say it is and we will punish you for not conforming”.
