• NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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    We’re doing everything we can, you know, other than not dropping bombs directly on refugees

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      I’m just scrolling. Not really doing anything.

      And nothing’s ever going to change if we don’t do anything.

      So think about the question; “well what can I do?

      We can’t do shit because we are owned and overpowered by nation-gangs. We are helpless, because the most conniving people at the perfect time in the past made it that way.

      When war is happening we should all feel guilty.

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          not going to happen. look at their export list - we need all of that stuff except for the diamonds

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        Boycutt Israel

        Spread some pro Palestinian narratives

        Call your reps

        It’s not much, but it can help

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        We might be helpless to stop it this second, but there are actions we can take to slow the support for this down and stop it in the future hopefully. Even little things can help, we are owned and overpowered by nation-gangs but they are always outnumbered by their pawns.

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      Jabalya was established in 1948. It’s not a refugee camp and hasn’t been in 50 years. Don’t buy into their narrative.

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        The IDF spokesman in the clip confirmed they were aware of refugee women and children in the location before deciding to go ahead with the bombing.

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          And immediately turned around and said, “No Wolf, that’s not what you’re hearing.”

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            I think that’s called “gaslighting”. Or “doublespeak”. One of those.

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          Article 28 of the Geneva Convention:

          The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.

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            Lmao thanks for the laugh, I’ve never seen someone cite the Geneva convention to justify bombing women and children 🤡

            Edit: let me reiterate, lmaoooooooo

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              Yet here we are with everyone calling it a war crime, then when they are shown it’s in fact not, they just plug their ears and go on with their narrative.

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                narratives dont work when you’re exposed to factual information - but if you willingly disbelieve and remain intentionally ignorant then all the factual information in the world wont change your belief. aka this thread and others like it for the last few weeks.

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                  narratives dont work when you’re exposed to factual information - but if you willingly disbelieve and remain intentionally ignorant then all the factual information in the world wont change your belief.

                  Agreed, the amount of people throwing words around like “genocide” and “carpet bombing” have long detached from reality.

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                    yep. the ideological warfare is largely electronic these days, fought in forums and threads. a battle waged by paragraph. where. every. word. matters.

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          Zionist? Closest I’ve come to being Jewish was a girl friend I had in high school. Been to Israel on business, but been a lot of places. What’s your problem?

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            Zionism isn’t being Jewish, it’s being pro-Israel and its intentions of establishing a unified control of the area. Joe Biden and Donald Trump are Zionists, neither are Jewish in faith or ethnicity. Bernie Sanders is Jewish, but against Israel’s expansion of the borders and acts it does.

            It’s like how you can be against Israel and not be Antisemetic, or be Antisemetic and be pro-Israel for reasons from “I want them exported to there” to “They will allow the Kingdom of God to come to Earth”.

            I am against Israel’s apartheid state, and I am against it’s ethnic cleaning of the area. Just as I am for any nation who aims to do that, like Turkey and Russia. But I don’t explicitly hate Turkish or Russian or Israeli citizens blindly because their government that they don’t have direct control over does horrible acts.

            Zionism ≠ Jewish

            Jewish ≠ Zionism

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              Actually Zionism originated in the early 1900’s and had to do with establishing a homeland for Jewish people.

              I dislike Israel’s heavy handed approach, but I understand it. I dislike Bibi, because he never really stopped being a New Jersey bar bouncer (yeah he was, look it up). I also understood exactly the outcome of the Hamas attacks, and can understand the resulting war. I can also understand that civilians will be killed in this war as long as they are around Hamas.

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                How are they supposed to not be around Hamas? They aren’t allowed to leave Gaza (whether it’s the IDF or Hamas preventing their departure doesn’t matter that much here). Even if they were allowed to leave Gaza, what money would they use to do it? Where would they go? How will they rebuild their lives away from the family and social network that they already have established with limited mobility, immigration options, or money?

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                  Even if they were allowed to leave Gaza, what money would they use to do it? Where would they go? How will they rebuild their lives away from the family and social network that they already have established with limited mobility, immigration options, or money?

                  Maybe using international aid that isn’t being stolen by Hamas and used to make rockets.

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                  I simply made a statement. Israelis aren’t going to not engage Hamas because they surround themselves with civilians. Its up to them to move.

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                    The Israeli government could fix the problem by putting an end to the settler attacks in the West Bank and the blockade of Gaza in pursuit of a true two-state solution. The easiest way to isolate Hamas would be to fully and properly recognize and protect the rights of Palestinian civilians in a way that would offer them a better life away from Hamas influence. All they’re doing right now is a massive recruiting campaign for Hamas.

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            My problem is preprogrammed regurgitators of nonsense like you that equate zionism with Judaism. These things are not the same.

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              Nonetheless , what I stated is still true. It’s awful easy for the ignorant to assign labels they don’t truly understand.