Israel has made rons of concessions to peace and that was their mistake
No. The mistake was to first not nib groups like the Stern Gang in the bud, and then later on let that kind of thinking fester. You’re talking about wars against Israel’s existence but don’t mention that there were Jews in mandate Palestine which organised massacres against Arabs.
Are you aware of the term “Vergangenheitsbewältigung”? Israel has to face that aspect of its past. Come to terms with it. Stop casting themselves as only always the victim and ever only the victim and oh are all others always so mean, but instead accept, as history and as responsibility, that the state was funded in part on things like this:
Neither Jewish ethics nor Jewish tradition can disqualify terrorism as a means of combat. We are very far from having any moral qualms as far as our national war goes. We have before us the command of the Torah, whose morality surpasses that of any other body of laws in the world: “Ye shall blot them out to the last man.”
Yep that’s Stern Gang. Remember that, as well as that they tried to ally with the Nazis, the next time you try to cast Palestinians as Nazis, or, worse, try to make them responsible for the Holocaust.
Jews faces discrimination in every Arab country. When the ottomans controlled Palestine there were laws against Jewish immigration, and of course not Muslim immigration. Yes Islam has been fascist for many centuries. Jews were restricted from immigrating and then when they were able to they attacked and responded to various degrees. It’s ridiculous to think that it’s not Muslims who instigated the attacks… Do you think small numbers of Jews immigrated and immediately attacked Muslims ?
It’s ridiculous to think that it’s not Muslims who instigated the attacks… Do you think small numbers of Jews immigrated and immediately attacked Muslims ?
Read up on the Stern Gang, please, on Kahanites, and so on. Even forget about Arabs for a second: The current Israeli minister of national security once called for the assassination of Rabin. Is that or is that not an example of something being quite not right within Israeli civil society. How can such a person, possibly, have a public office. People are getting arrested for “aiding the enemy” for speculating publicly about how a Gaza invasion could go down, without any access to or leak of secret information – merely educated guesses. Go down further that road and pudding prices will be the least of your problems. The Nazis didn’t come for the Jews first, Jews were like at least fifth in line, it’s going to be the same in Israel: First the Smolanin, then the socdems, then the liberals. And then the Arabs.
Or you can stick your head in the sand and kvetch while fascists are taking over the country.
Read up the kahanites? A fringe group which was outlawed… Read up on hamas, the government of gaza. You sound like a lunatic, the Nazis didn’t prioritize coming for the Jews ? You must be 12
If you claim that Otzma Jehudit (remember: Part of the governing coalition) isn’t Kahanite then you’re either utterly naive or one of them and trying to gaslight. Also: Did Ben-Gvir call for Rabin’s assassination? Yes or no? Why is the man allowed to be in power, curious that you ignored that one.
Read up on hamas, the government of gaza.
A dictatorship which came to power before 50% of current Gazans were even born, much less could vote. Netanyahu and his Kahanites were last voted into power in 2022. Try again.
You sound like a lunatic, the Nazis didn’t prioritize coming for the Jews ? You must be 12
The Nazis started killing Communists in 1933. While persecution of Jews started also in 1933, there was ample time to flee, and many did – Communists, trade unionists etc. weren’t given that chance. Historians differ a bit on the actual start of the Shoah, but the start of the war with the attack on Poland (1939) is a popular date to put it at.
Of course Nazis first prosecuted political opponents, groups which could actually stop them, before implementing their further goals. Nazis are idiots but they aren’t stupid.
Kahane is illegal in Israel, no Ben gvir did not threaten to kill rabin 30 years ago when he was w teenager. I ignored it because it is ridiculous.
All Muslim states are dictatorships , pals support Hamas, maybe they are brainwashed but then everyone should be calling for the removal of Hamas right?
The Nazis did not allow Jews to flee, everyone knows this, the things you say are childish.
The original party, yes. Somehow, much unlike Germany, Israel doesn’t automatically outlaw successor organisations. Also if you want to call Otzma Yehudit something else they’re still vile fascists so same shit, different coat of paint.
no Ben gvir did not threaten to kill rabin 30 years ago when he was w teenager.
Quoth him, 1995: “We got to his car, and we’ll get to him too.” Look it up. Also, as you mention it: What he did as a teenager. Hint: Being a Kahanite.
All Muslim states are dictatorships
False. I think Malaysia ranks highest among majority-Muslim countries, between Lithuania and Slovakia, both EU members.
pals support Hamas, maybe they are brainwashed but then everyone should be calling for the removal of Hamas right?
The Nazis did not allow Jews to flee, everyone knows this, the things you say are childish.
No, they are educated about history, and the world. Something you do not seem to be. Persecution ramped up slowly, emigration only turned into mass flight in 1938, that long people stayed in the country even though they had lost pretty much all civil rights in 1935.
No. The mistake was to first not nib groups like the Stern Gang in the bud, and then later on let that kind of thinking fester. You’re talking about wars against Israel’s existence but don’t mention that there were Jews in mandate Palestine which organised massacres against Arabs.
Are you aware of the term “Vergangenheitsbewältigung”? Israel has to face that aspect of its past. Come to terms with it. Stop casting themselves as only always the victim and ever only the victim and oh are all others always so mean, but instead accept, as history and as responsibility, that the state was funded in part on things like this:
Yep that’s Stern Gang. Remember that, as well as that they tried to ally with the Nazis, the next time you try to cast Palestinians as Nazis, or, worse, try to make them responsible for the Holocaust.
Jews faces discrimination in every Arab country. When the ottomans controlled Palestine there were laws against Jewish immigration, and of course not Muslim immigration. Yes Islam has been fascist for many centuries. Jews were restricted from immigrating and then when they were able to they attacked and responded to various degrees. It’s ridiculous to think that it’s not Muslims who instigated the attacks… Do you think small numbers of Jews immigrated and immediately attacked Muslims ?
Read up on the Stern Gang, please, on Kahanites, and so on. Even forget about Arabs for a second: The current Israeli minister of national security once called for the assassination of Rabin. Is that or is that not an example of something being quite not right within Israeli civil society. How can such a person, possibly, have a public office. People are getting arrested for “aiding the enemy” for speculating publicly about how a Gaza invasion could go down, without any access to or leak of secret information – merely educated guesses. Go down further that road and pudding prices will be the least of your problems. The Nazis didn’t come for the Jews first, Jews were like at least fifth in line, it’s going to be the same in Israel: First the Smolanin, then the socdems, then the liberals. And then the Arabs.
Or you can stick your head in the sand and kvetch while fascists are taking over the country.
Read up the kahanites? A fringe group which was outlawed… Read up on hamas, the government of gaza. You sound like a lunatic, the Nazis didn’t prioritize coming for the Jews ? You must be 12
If you claim that Otzma Jehudit (remember: Part of the governing coalition) isn’t Kahanite then you’re either utterly naive or one of them and trying to gaslight. Also: Did Ben-Gvir call for Rabin’s assassination? Yes or no? Why is the man allowed to be in power, curious that you ignored that one.
A dictatorship which came to power before 50% of current Gazans were even born, much less could vote. Netanyahu and his Kahanites were last voted into power in 2022. Try again.
The Nazis started killing Communists in 1933. While persecution of Jews started also in 1933, there was ample time to flee, and many did – Communists, trade unionists etc. weren’t given that chance. Historians differ a bit on the actual start of the Shoah, but the start of the war with the attack on Poland (1939) is a popular date to put it at.
Of course Nazis first prosecuted political opponents, groups which could actually stop them, before implementing their further goals. Nazis are idiots but they aren’t stupid.
Also, Niemöller.
Kahane is illegal in Israel, no Ben gvir did not threaten to kill rabin 30 years ago when he was w teenager. I ignored it because it is ridiculous.
All Muslim states are dictatorships , pals support Hamas, maybe they are brainwashed but then everyone should be calling for the removal of Hamas right?
The Nazis did not allow Jews to flee, everyone knows this, the things you say are childish.
The original party, yes. Somehow, much unlike Germany, Israel doesn’t automatically outlaw successor organisations. Also if you want to call Otzma Yehudit something else they’re still vile fascists so same shit, different coat of paint.
Quoth him, 1995: “We got to his car, and we’ll get to him too.” Look it up. Also, as you mention it: What he did as a teenager. Hint: Being a Kahanite.
False. I think Malaysia ranks highest among majority-Muslim countries, between Lithuania and Slovakia, both EU members.
Maybe have an actual look at actual data.
No, they are educated about history, and the world. Something you do not seem to be. Persecution ramped up slowly, emigration only turned into mass flight in 1938, that long people stayed in the country even though they had lost pretty much all civil rights in 1935.