• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Horseshoe theory is bullshit that ideologically deficient people made up to make themselves look good while lumping leftist reform advocates in with fascists.

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          I’m neither lol. Both are crappy authoritarian ideologies with a fondness for state violence.

          I’m more somewhere between an anti-capitalist pacifist social democrat and an anarchist, depending on the issue.

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            Both are crappy authoritarian ideologies with a fondness for state violence

            … so like a horseshoe shape where the more extreme ends seem to trend back to the same place?

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              No. There being similarities doesn’t mean that they’re identical. For example, fascism is ultra-capitalist and against social safety nets, whereas communism is anti-capitalist and very much in favor of social safety nets.

              To think them identical requires a child-level understanding of political ideologies, something that’s unfortunately very common amongst liberals and centrists.

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                  “The same place” is very much a way of saying identical when it comes to political ideology. Nice try using semantics to pretend your claim isn’t moronic oversimplification mixed with ignorance, but it didn’t work.

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      Horseshoe theory is horseshit.

      • Fascism is capitalist
      • Conservativism is capitalist
      • Liberalism is capitalist
      • Socialism is anticapitalist
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      It wierdly is. Maybe because each side is demonising some group of people, so the end result is a powerful entity exterminating the group they see as bad. For the right it’s nationality and race, for the left it’s wealth and subservience.

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        Those are the kinds of beliefs that false consciousness tends to produce.

        Capitalism makes the 99% subservient to the 1%, and socialists want to end that. I’ll tell you what the right’s racism & jingoism is: it’s wealthy people convincing non-wealthy white people to blame nonwhite people & foreigners for their problems, instead of correctly blaming the wealthy ruling elite themselves.

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          I would argue that socialism is not the far left that causes problems. In communism, ie the far left, it’s the same as the far right; powerful and/or wealthy people oppressing the masses.

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            I was taught that in high school. Turns out, it’s just not true.