• WabiSabiPapi@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    petitioning for a fucking emoji epitomizes the criticism that social media is a vehicle for diverting action into impotent dialogue.

    since we’re on the subject

    retributive violence against individual actors is not the same as dismantling oppressive systems, and should not eclipse the important work of creating resilient communities and networks of mutual aid to replace those heirarchies.

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      I think you took the joke a bit too seriously

      Edit: oh wait wtf I didn’t notice the post body. I agree with you then lol

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        Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.

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        It’s funny how reverting to pictograms is being construed as “new”.

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      retributive violence against individual actors is not the same as dismantling oppressive systems

      My problem is that I only understand one of those things. The other is meaningless hot air, spewed exclusively by intellectual elites who may or may not have any idea of what that is even supposed to mean.

      work of creating resilient communities and networks of mutual aid to replace those heirarchies.

      And that explanation doesn’t tell me anything either. Put up a guillotine. Put the man in. Let the blade fall. I understand that. Create a network of mutual aid to replace hierarchies? Never saw that happen. Never learned about that, or how that is supposed to work. Don’t know what that is supposed to mean, or how that is supposed to play out.

      If you assume anyone knows about any of that, and if you assume that anyone can imagine anything concrete about that, you are out of touch. You are communicating ineffectively. At least to me. And probably to most other people as well.

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      The effect of examples is not to underestimate. That’s how they keep workers in check, and that’s how guillotining a king got 2 centuries of democracy.

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      A continuous 30 day vacation is only 20 working days or so. In my country that’s the government mandated minimum.

      I think 25 or 30 workday paid vacation mandate is better for your mental health and productivity.

      I actually get “unlimited” paid vacation days, which sounds like a bit of a shady practice. But I’ve already taken 30 days this year and I get absolutely no complaints. I’m planning on taking at least one more week this year.

      I can’t imagine not having any vacation days. America sounds nice and all if you’re making 150k+ but I’d hate to work there at median income.

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        A gigantic portion of our population makes 50-60k each so household income looks like 100k+ until you look and see that there are plenty of perpetually single people like myself “stuck” only making 60k with 10 vacation days.

        2/10 would not recommend.

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        America is a big place with lots of different employers so your statement really isn’t valid. Plenty of people get a decent amount of vacation even at lower wages. Certainly not enough which is why we need to keep fighting for worker rights. Sorry but statements like yours really make my ass itch because you’re using our suffering to prop yourself up when I’m sure you’ve got plenty of problems in your own country that you remain apathetic and inactive about every day. You’ll probably want to reply that you’re just trying to show some kind of sympathy but that’s not ever what it comes across as when anyone tries to speak about the lives of people living in a different country.

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          What’s the point of this whole platform if we’re not exchanging experiences?

          I know there there was a feeling by some back on Reddit that Europeans like pissing on the US without self-reflection. Maybe that is partly true, but you also don’t read any of the self-reflections because chances they are in our native languages.

          But for me personally I have considered moving to the US as a skilled worker, which if possible is a privileged position to begin with. I’m in a field that pays much better in the US so I am still envious of colleagues in the US making 1.5 to 2 times what I do. But I just don’t love my job. I’m pretty good at parts of it, but I hate (read: am bad at) some other necessary parts of my job. So in the end my career options are somewhat limited. So yeah, there is probably a degree of cognitive dissonance involved.

          Here is a list of things wrong with the Netherlands, just to balance shit

          • Dutch childcare benefits scandal: Government falsely accused vulnerable citizens of fraud, leading to children being placed out of the house, bankruptcies, and even suicides
          • Youth minimum wage (though being phased out)
          • Labour exploitation through flexible contracts
          • Terrible working and housing conditions for foreign slaughterhouse workers
          • Nitrogen crisis
          • Housing crisis, partly because of demographic developments (fewer people per house, slight growth through immigration) but now also because of the nitrogen crisis
          • The government basically forced hundreds of asylum seekers to sleep outside last summer because of budget cuts which are probably popular with a certain constituency
          • Earthquakes crisis in Groningen because of natural gas extraction, with a government turning a blind eye to people who saw the value of their houses tank because of structural damage

          And that’s before you get to all the things you could say for any developed western capitalist nation.

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          Things will never improve if we don’t point to something better and aspire to it.

          It’s why Canada sucks so much. Every time one of our problems is being talked about, everyone compares ourselves to the US and shrugs. When you point to something better it’s unattainable, but at least we’re not as bad as america!! We’re a country of apathy.

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      IMO much better than workaholic executives who use their own unhealthy lifestyle as justification to inflict it on others.

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      I mean… I came here to say that you can go after the guy for being a CEO, but taking a month off is not particularly controversial over here. If anything, when I talk to a US business owner, which I sometimes do, hearing about how they are constantly working is normally more of a red flag than the opposite.

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          Anybody in the EU is rich when a lot of people can’t really afford to eat out once a month since they get paid barely above the absolute minimum to maintain a living while in Germany for example 2 families own more than half the population combined. Only because Paris is near and we get paid vacation doesn’t mean we actually have more money to enjoy life per se. And Paris is expensive.

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    Oh boo fucking hoo. I have zero empathy for these fucks making millions every year and grinding wage slaves into dust.

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    I’d settle for a Trebuchet emoji, because I’m fine with flinging billionaires across the landscape at high speeds.

    Honestly, a lot more fun than a guillotine, imho. Think about the ragdolling as they tumble in the air.

    EDIT: Also, the longer the hangtime, the longer they have to think about the decisions that led them to people wanting to fling their body a few miles with a trebuchet. No forced self reflection with a guillotine.

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      eat the rich fling the rich at high velocities

      Not quite as catchy, but that does sound amusing!

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      I doubt they’d spend the hangtime thinking about their transgressions.

      It would more useful for other billionaires to see the hangtime and imagining that, as a deterrent.

      Yes this is a completely pedantic comment

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      While fun to think about, they probably end up at least knocked out if not dead before they even get released.

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        Surely there’s a fine tuning that maximises air time while not rendering then unconscious for the trip.

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      I’m imagining an event like the old school Punkin Chunkin, where people build elaborate devices to try and fling a pumpkin as far and as accurately as possible. Call it The Billionaire Fling and wherever the billionaires land is where they get buried.

      Have amusement rides, bounce houses, fair food, etc, and donate all proceeds to food banks and homeless shelters.

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      I saw one where he was like, when I have people to interview for a job in my company, I ring them at 7 in the morning and tell them to be in the office by 8 and make them do a whole days work and then if they pass that the interview process starts… like go fuck yourself you pretentious cunt, you’re just making people work for free then telling them to fuck off, and to top it off he had people below saying yeah I applaud that and that’s the best way to take out the worst people who don’t want to work???

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    The CEO’s who are making millions of dollars? I don’t think really do anything, so if they just didn’t show up to work for a month would it even be that noticeable?