So yeah, “what’s a holodomor between friends” is indeed your argument? A small oopsie of 5M deaths. Other than that, and the purges, the gulags, the ethnic cleansing, the police state, the corruption, the mass murders and a few invasion of neighbors, everything was perfect. Oh, and the monopoly of everything.
But yes, tell me more how capitalism, some day, maybe, perhaps, if the stars align, will create some monopoly.
The famine in the 1930s was the last major famine outside of wartime in Russia, when it was previously regular. Famine wasn’t so much caused by Socialism as it was ended by it. Socialism isn’t magic, when revolution happens there remains decades and centuries of building towards a new and better future. I’m curious what you think the purges entailed, or the GULAG prison system, both in scope and in character, ie quantity and quality.
I really doubt you’ve given any thought at all towards the Soviet Union, to be honest, outside of learning about it in presumably some western school. I recommend Dr. Michael Parenti’s Blackshirts and Reds if you want a realistic critique of the Soviet Union, and not one concocted by the authors of the now long-debunked Black Book of Communism.
The fact of the matter, is that the Soviets democratized the economy, doubled life expectancy, pushed women into politics and fields previously held exclusively by men such as the scientific area, provided free and high quality healthcare, education, and childcare, lowered working hours while maintaining one of the highest growth rates in GDP in the 20th century, had retirement at 55 for women and 60 for men, over tripled literacy rates to 99.9% (higher than the US and Western Europe), went from semi-feudalism to space in 44 years, and dramatically lowered wealth inequality.
The stars don’t need to align, Monopoly is already here. Presuming you live in a western country, you enjoy vast benefits from acting as the Global South’s landlord through Imperialism, funded through brutal IMF loans and export of Capital.
Just forgot to add, I love how you talk about “brutal IMF loans”. Brutal was when Soviet soldiers invaded my country, raping, pillaging and occupying it for almost 50 years. I assure you, taking a loan is slightly less brutal. Just a bit.
My country isn’t anyone’s landlord, barely regained independence not that long ago.
Not sure where you live, nor do I need to. It’s a known fact that countries like the US, France, Germany, Britain, and so forth essentially act as parasites on the world and ruin those who go against them. The Soviets have historically been far better for the world than any of the Western powers.
The loans are only one small part. When you go against the Western powers, you end up like Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, Cuba, Cambodia, and Afghanistan. Butchered and pillaged by the US.
Up is down, cats are dogs and they ended famine by creating famine? Sure… What’s 5 million Ukrainians here, 20 thousand poles there, minor details. Just some light ethnic cleansing, the important thing is that schools had a dentist. And that invading, occupying, opressing and exploiting 20+ other countries is good for GDP, line must go up after all. Also tell me more about how many women were First secretary? Or generals? Or any position of power?
I have spent time in the Soviet union, no need for western books, but show me more graphs and recommend more books! But not the ones you dislike, those have been apparently magically discredited by your favorite discord guru or lemmy mod.
So yeah, “what’s a holodomor between friends” is indeed your argument? A small oopsie of 5M deaths. Other than that, and the purges, the gulags, the ethnic cleansing, the police state, the corruption, the mass murders and a few invasion of neighbors, everything was perfect. Oh, and the monopoly of everything.
But yes, tell me more how capitalism, some day, maybe, perhaps, if the stars align, will create some monopoly.
The famine in the 1930s was the last major famine outside of wartime in Russia, when it was previously regular. Famine wasn’t so much caused by Socialism as it was ended by it. Socialism isn’t magic, when revolution happens there remains decades and centuries of building towards a new and better future. I’m curious what you think the purges entailed, or the GULAG prison system, both in scope and in character, ie quantity and quality.
I really doubt you’ve given any thought at all towards the Soviet Union, to be honest, outside of learning about it in presumably some western school. I recommend Dr. Michael Parenti’s Blackshirts and Reds if you want a realistic critique of the Soviet Union, and not one concocted by the authors of the now long-debunked Black Book of Communism.
The fact of the matter, is that the Soviets democratized the economy, doubled life expectancy, pushed women into politics and fields previously held exclusively by men such as the scientific area, provided free and high quality healthcare, education, and childcare, lowered working hours while maintaining one of the highest growth rates in GDP in the 20th century, had retirement at 55 for women and 60 for men, over tripled literacy rates to 99.9% (higher than the US and Western Europe), went from semi-feudalism to space in 44 years, and dramatically lowered wealth inequality.
The stars don’t need to align, Monopoly is already here. Presuming you live in a western country, you enjoy vast benefits from acting as the Global South’s landlord through Imperialism, funded through brutal IMF loans and export of Capital.
Just forgot to add, I love how you talk about “brutal IMF loans”. Brutal was when Soviet soldiers invaded my country, raping, pillaging and occupying it for almost 50 years. I assure you, taking a loan is slightly less brutal. Just a bit.
My country isn’t anyone’s landlord, barely regained independence not that long ago.
Not sure where you live, nor do I need to. It’s a known fact that countries like the US, France, Germany, Britain, and so forth essentially act as parasites on the world and ruin those who go against them. The Soviets have historically been far better for the world than any of the Western powers.
The loans are only one small part. When you go against the Western powers, you end up like Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, Cuba, Cambodia, and Afghanistan. Butchered and pillaged by the US.
Up is down, cats are dogs and they ended famine by creating famine? Sure… What’s 5 million Ukrainians here, 20 thousand poles there, minor details. Just some light ethnic cleansing, the important thing is that schools had a dentist. And that invading, occupying, opressing and exploiting 20+ other countries is good for GDP, line must go up after all. Also tell me more about how many women were First secretary? Or generals? Or any position of power?
I have spent time in the Soviet union, no need for western books, but show me more graphs and recommend more books! But not the ones you dislike, those have been apparently magically discredited by your favorite discord guru or lemmy mod.