• Psythik@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    Does anyone else have the opposite problem? I feel like head rests are* always too far back. If I place my head flat against them then more often than not I’m in an uncomfortable driving position because my neck is tilted back and up. I have to lean forward to drive most cars and it really annoys me.

    Edit: I’m starting to think that a lot of you drive with the seat in an upright position. I sit at a slight recline because it’s easier on my back. Maybe that’s the problem.

    • AA5B@lemmy.world
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      10 hours ago

      Older cars were like that, but more recently usually have headsets that can adjust forward and back

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        8 hours ago

        Define “older”. I’ve never owned a car newer than 10 years old, and plenty of 10-15 year old cars have this problem.

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      10 hours ago

      Perhaps you live in a place with different vehicle safety requirements. In the US, uncomfortable forward-tilted headrests are mandated by the federal government.

    • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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      2 hours ago

      I had a driving safety instructor tell me that’s on purpose, and they are not comfort, but safety devices, and you should not drive while leaning against it.

      The seat should support your full back, but the headrest should be a few centimetres behind your head so you can still look around, but it can lessen the effects of whiplash.

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    22 hours ago

    Agree.

    Also people seem to think the head rests are there for you to constantly be resting your head on but they are head restraints.. They’re there so you don’t break your neck if you get in an accident - not to be comfy on a long drive.

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      22 hours ago

      This is the correct answer. It’s a safety device, not for resting your head. When the foam is not compressed it is not good neck alignment, but in an accident, your head slams into the foam and crushes it, that’s when your neck is in good alignment, preventing damage.

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      18 hours ago

      I agree that the main reason for them is to prevent breaking your neck in an accident. But I have to ask… Why not make something that allows for both? Surely we can make something that helps ease our neck and shoulder muscles for long drives and prevent us from snapping our necks in a car accident from in front or back of us. No?

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        17 hours ago

        Those exist in fancier cars. Recently rented a jaguar f-type for a weekend getaway road trip and we noticed after an hour or 2 that the headrests actually were functional and comfy. Why the hell that shape isnt used in a normal seat i have no idea.

      • LePoisson@lemmy.world
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        18 hours ago

        Idk I think because of how much force needs to be contained by the restraint it is rigid for a reason. My guess is there is an engineering reason based on physics.

        Also you don’t want people to be falling asleep while driving (anymore than already happens) so maybe that’s a factor too? Like it’s not meant to be a pillow lol

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      20 hours ago

      You shouldn’t be pushing against it, but you shouldn’t be that far away from it either to prevent whip lash.

      Any normal headrest can be angled almost vertically so it’s not like OPs picture. I wonder if op just doesn’t realize you can tilt them further forward and reset them.

      • LePoisson@lemmy.world
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        20 hours ago

        OP is making a joke, I’m sure they’re aware headrests move and none actually look like the post lol.

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          19 hours ago

          They are not joking, and some cars cannot adjust the angle or lateral position of the headrest without replacement. There are cars (like 2009 Lincoln MKZs, cough) that have headrests and seats that look and feel exactly like the image.

          I owned one for about 3 years, and I still blame it for starting my weird neck/shoulder problems years later.

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            19 hours ago

            True some can’t adjust the angle, but obviously none of them protrude the ridiculous amount shown in the post.

            I’m not sure how this isn’t a joke, clearly it’s a riff on how headrests can be weirdly uncomfortable at times. Anyways, if you’re chilling with your head against that the whole time you’re driving you’re not doing it right.

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        22 hours ago

        Ackshually…it’s there for complying with National Highway Traffic Safety Administration regulations and protecting auto manufacturers from legal liability. If you use the safety device incorrectly and suffer injury as a result, that’s entirely on you. Everyone is free win their Darwin award!

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          15 hours ago

          He said he is free to use it how he wants and you said he’s free to use it how he wants. Weird disparity in votes for that one.

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      9 hours ago

      No way, I’m still picking scales out of my crack from the last time I gave that a shot

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    22 hours ago

    I am very short, and sit up rather straight. My head hits what should be the most comfortable parts of every kind of seating in the most uncomfortable way. This is an accurate representation of the sensation, when curved neck portion ends up at top of your skull, and doubly so, if it’s a bucket seat. Special cushions help, in certain vehicles, which can also alleviate the seatbelt going practically across your throat. Our old Outback is tolerable, which is lovely.

    We have a couple IKEA Poang chairs at home, and I need to make pillow booster-seats for the damned things, or it’s just this image, lol

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      22 hours ago

      I just bought a 2024 Prius and as a short person I can attest that it’s the best short-people car I’ve ever had. While it does suffer from most of the issues you would assume from not testing with shorter dummies, those issues don’t really get in the way like they do in other cars. The seat and headrest feel great, the seatbelt is adjustable on the side so it won’t cut into your neck, and it’s very easy to get in and out of. 10/10 car for us short people.

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      19 hours ago

      I’m tall and long in the torso. The last serious car accident I was in my head bashed against the ceiling in a frightening way. Or, it would have been frightening if I had any memory of it. I had a brush burn on my forehead which could only have happened if my head was pushed way back from hitting the ceiling. Before you ask, I always wear a seatbelt.

      Anyway, that’s not why I’m replying. I’m generally ok with car headrests, although I usually have to lean the seat back pretty far to just fit in.

      I bought a new office chair. I specifically chose one without a headrest, but it showed up with one anyway. At it’s highest adjustment it sits right between my shoulders.

      The world seems designed to fit such a narrow range of people.

      • skulblaka@sh.itjust.works
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        16 hours ago

        Fact is, if you aren’t in the central bell curve, then you aren’t a profitable sector. Everything is tailored to the average these days in order to have the largest potential pool of customers from which to extract profit. If only one out of every ten people is tall enough to have problems with “regular sized” objects then that means only one out of every ten people are potential customers for your Big&Tall products. 99% of companies will elect to target the other 9/10 instead, even in a saturated market.

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      19 hours ago

      Yes those Poang chairs hurt my neck so bad, we had to get rid of it as it caused headaches whenever I sat in it. What about Airplane seats they also seem to push your neck forward in an in unergonomic way.

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      20 hours ago

      We have the Poangs as well, and I can’t recline in them. The only comfortable position is to rip the cushion out and put it on the floor, and sit on the floor. >.<

      I have the seatbelt cutting my neck problem too - and I’m not exactly short. :/

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    13 hours ago

    Many people dont realize you can pull them forward and they then pop back. Yours may have been pulled partially forward.

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      My car is great, modern, amazing battery life, affordable… It has a headrest like in the OP she it is fixed. Like fused with the seat.

      The best bet is I’m quite tall, so it pokes me in the shoulder blades.

      It sucks but, other that that, it was an amazing deal when I bought it.

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        12 hours ago

        I’m sure you’re aware, but that’s pretty dangerous. You will most likely have pretty bad a neck injury if you get into a wreck. It might be worth upgrading the seat to one that fits you better.

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          11 hours ago

          He’ll likely have a pretty bad neck injury without the accident. Keeping your body in an unnatural alignment like that for long periods of time is just begging for spinal injury.

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    22 hours ago

    I don’t think my head ever touches my headrest when I’m driving. Rarely, I’ll lean back while sitting still, but that’s the only time I’m ever even aware of it.

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        22 hours ago

        And doing so releases calming spores that manipulate your brain into thinking that driving is a good idea and that public transport is treason.

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    19 hours ago

    I hate those long distance busses. If you sit up straight, the headrest is in your back. If you slouch down to get your head at the headrest so you can get some rest, the question becomes where to put your legs without pain and discomfort.

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      17 hours ago

      Its even worse when you’re taller than the designer expected and sitting up straight leaning back just means tilting my head backwards over the headrest.

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          Or maybe your express my expectations are off. Volvos have always been very safe cars. In my 2008 and 2015 Volvos the head rests are “uncomfortable” and immobile. But I, and others who are shorter, can adjust the seat so that it saves my neck in case of an crash. They’re not there to be comfortable, they’re there to save you.

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    Everyone should take this moment to consider correct posture.

    One of the best pieces of advice I ever received was to change the angle of my rear-view mirror to remind myself to sit straight.

    In essence, try to force the lowest part of your neck to touch the heighest point on the headrest.

    Then notice how you cannot see out of your rear view mirror. Adjust it from this position, and get used to it.

    It’s gonna be weird for a while, but I assure you, this is what is best for your spine. I’ll take your gratitude in advance, for when you’re 80 and not folded over.

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      13 hours ago

      Best advice I ever received posture wise was to pretend my nipples were Lazer guns and try to shoot people in the face. I like to say pewpew in my head

    • Squizzy@lemmy.world
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      13 hours ago

      Lowest part of neck to higheat part of the headrest? Sounds like the before times when peoples necks snapped in acidents because nothing stopped their head shooting backward

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        10 hours ago

        Yeah, the headrests in cars are angled forward because it’s the safest in the event of a crash. Unfortunately, that means that the headrests are generally uncomfortable. The back of the head should be resting on the headrest; the neck should NOT be resting on the headrest unless you want to risk permanent injury or death.

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        If you have an accident, whiplash is partially countered by a seatbelt, but if you do have an accident, the severity of your neck damage will be dependant on your resting posture.

        With a correct posture, there is less deviation in how your spine bends.

        In any case, headrests are adjustable, make sure it’s set correctly. Unless your posture is perfect, changing your ergonomics will be uncomfortable.

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          Whiplash is from your head moving more than your neck can compensate for. The headrests are designed to prevent excessive backwards movement of your head to help your neck not get completely over-extended. Heads are actually quite heavy and there are a lot of very important things inside the neck that you don’t want getting fucked up be getting jerked around too much. The muscles in your neck can only do so much in a high-velocity situation like a crash.

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            Sure. What I’m inferring is the head moves more without a tight seatbelt, due to the additional inertia of your body, and its angle.

            It might be easier to imagine it with an example. If you’ve ever taken a class in something like Judo, the first thing they’ll teach you is how to fall. It is incredibly important to maintain good posture as you fall, as hitting the mat with your head tilted too high is something that can turn you paraplegic in a second.

            Same goes for a car. If your posture is fucked up, and your head hits the headrest wrong, it could lead to a broken neck.

            As you train better posture, both your spine and the muscles around it find a new relaxed state. Essentially eliminating the risk of your head folding under the headrest.

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      Mine forces bad posture. Sitting with an erect spine means my head is tilted steeply forward.

      I have to lean the seat back until I’m not resting my back against the seat so there’s less pressure in my neck. That means I’m not able to rest my upper back at all.

      What i wouldn’t give for 1cm of adjustment.

  • pinkystew@reddthat.com
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    18 hours ago

    Same thing on planes.

    “They need something to rest their head on!” --> adds something that nobody asked for and nobody needs --> "I’m helping you :) "

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      Exactly! They are the absolute worst on long flights. I can manage the limited leg room. But why the fuck does my head need to be pushed 2 inches ahead of my back and shoulders? And why can’t those flaps on the side of the head rest be more substantial so you can rest your head to either side at least? My strategy has been to lift the headrest as high as it will go, and usually I am short enough for it to clear my head so I can have some semblance of comfort.