“F you, Taylor Swift!” shouted Megyn Kelly, “and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”
For those not fluent in Republican crazy-speak, Kelly’s meltdown was triggered by Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris the night before, barely one hour after Trump all but face-planted on the debate stage. Kelly was especially triggered by Swift highlighting her appreciation for vice presidential nominee Tim Walz’s support of LGBTQ+ rights.
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Other right-wing commentators, like Ben Shapiro, took another approach: making fun of Swifties. “Note: if you vote for a particular candidate because your favorite singer is doing so, please don’t vote. You are too stupid to vote,” wrote Shapiro on X. Meanwhile, Elon Musk, the richest man on the planet, threatened to impregnate her.
“I will impregnate her” -Elon Musk
“She will be raped by Venezuelans” -David Rubin
“Children’s Genitals!” -Megyn Kelly
Weird…
Is Megyn Kelly really against circumcision now or something?
That must be it, or like medically necessary amputations. It must be one of those things or a delusion she is suffering.
No, she means sexual reassignment surgery I’m sure.
Let me guess. Only hers was moral.
Megan Kelly is circumcised?
Nope. Her mudflaps swing down by her knees.
So intersex reassignments of babies born with ambiguous characteristics?
That was my first thought!
Why the hate They got the endorsment of quality stars like Kid rock, Kanye, Kevin sorbo, Hulk Hogan, Elon musk,
Al fine gentlemen /s
I read this morning that the Swift endorsement was not choreographed with the Harris/Walz champaign. They didn’t know it would happen until it did. Yet, they turned out and advertised a campaign friendship braclet within an hour. That is excellent digital marketing work.
Edited to add. They also sold out of them in an hour
I saw the look on Tim’s face as Rachael Maddow received a note on-air and read the tweet in total, live. Their absolute shit-eating grins showed total and genuine surprise. You could hear them internally screaming, “FUCKING JACKPOT!”
As to the bracelet, they knew she would endorse them at some point, I’m sure they had it ready for that eventuality.
It took me a bit to find this video for anyone looking for it. The more I see interactions with Tim, really shows how wholesome of a person he is.
Yeah, her war chest is pretty huge so a few thousand bracelets on the assumption Seift would eventually endorse seems pretty reasonable.
The moment the right wing started pumping out AI pictures claiming Swift endorsed Trump, her endorsing Harris became basically inevitable
That’s what happens when you have a great campaign staff.
Trump, otoh, sells the same red hat they’ve been selling for 8 years, plus some ridiculous “outlaw trump” posters
Republicans would lose 2/3 off their voter base if they listened to Ben Shapiro. Like how many voters have become Republican because they listened to their favorite radio DJ or podcaster.
Never forget the time Shapiro got angry and confused in a softball interview with British right winger Andrew Neil and stormed out.
I highly recommend skipping to the end if you haven’t seen it:
It’s a mystery to me how these people get taken seriously at all.
This was a fun watch!
The quote says singers.
Podcasters and radio hosts on the other hand are stellar people with the absolute best opinions and should be listened to and followed like sheep.
A lot, actually. Tons of money is being poured into raising up popular propagandists because it works. Russia was caught doing it just recently.
Russia was caught doing it just recently.
For those out of the loop:
“The Department of Justice also indicted two employees of RT, a Russian state broadcaster, saying that they funneled $10 million to a U.S. media company that hired prominent right-wing influencers here in the U.S.”
Were it Russia alone, it’d be countered. The reason it doesn’t is because there are also Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia.
I half agree with Shapiro. It is stupid to vote for someone because a celebrity or anyone else famous that you like endorses someone.
However, people do, so it does indeed get votes.
It’s less stupud to listen to Taylor Swift than it is to Ben Shapiro.
Choose who you listen to wisely. And no, her being a singer has little influence on that decision.
Ben Shapiro has zero qualifications to say anything
I would agree if she were a vapid pop star. But she’s very clearly an intelligent business woman who also has musical talent. There are worse public figures to take cues from.
Unless you are yourself an intelligent billionaire business woman, why are you taking advice on who to vote for from her?
What I’m getting at is people shouldn’t behave like sheep. Think for yourself and make your own voting decisions instead of listening to other people’s decisions.
This sounds a lot like you’re telling people that the way to not be a sheep is to only listen to people who are just like you.
And yeah you have to make your own decision and not just be told that to do. However, I’d also throw out there that it is an extremely natural thing for us as social creatures to consider the breadth of outside opinions available to us when making a decision.
A solid chunk of the population always behaves like sheep, even with the opportunity to educate oneself and form one’s own opinion, as well as people warning them not to behave like sheep. I certainly don’t know how to stop this from happening on a mass scale. So, when some chunk of the population takes a cue from a famous person, if that person has intentions that seem benevolent and point people towards what I consider to be a wise choice, I can at least be glad about that.
At scale everyone behaves like sheep, but these are all independently thinking beings making their own decisions.
Your opinions don’t really matter as, like all sheep, they are ultimately irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
Yeah, I’m not mad about it in this instance because it lines with my vote, but what about when it doesn’t?
It’s bad! I just don’t know what to do about it
We model good decisions based on what people we respect tell us all the time. Maybe Taylor Swift isn’t the ideal role model, but she’s certainly not the worst one I can think of.
Politics is not something most normal people think a lot about or have coherent views about. I don’t think it’s all that crazy to think that an important role model could work as a heuristic for figuring out what their own values are.
I disagree. Celebrities are paid for movies, music, tv, ads, etc, and at any time, they can say they only did that one thing you didn’t like because someone paid them money. They take a chance by endorsing a candidate because they could potentially lose lots of money, jobs, friends, or more. The type of people that do vote for candidates based on endorsements are also the type of people that don’t generally follow politics, but when you talk to them, you’ll find they are for the same issues as the candidate.
That endorsement could be the one that made some 18-21 year old go and look up the endorsed candidate. When they look up the candidate, they may not be really interested, but then they may find something that the candidate supports, and that makes them want to vote. They never would have voted if they didn’t find that information, and they wouldn’t have looked up the information without the endorsement.
Have you ever bought something that you saw an influencer endorse on social media? Have you ever gone to a new place because someone else recommended it? Have you ever found a new friend because one of your friends was friends with them? What about dropping thousands of dollars into a stock because someone said you should? All of these are just other forms of endorsements from people you pay attention and listen to. Maybe someone recommended a show on Netflix that you passed on previously but decided to watch because of the endorsement, and you really loved it?
Don’t forget, Shapiro didn’t just say you shouldn’t base your vote off of an endorsement. He said that people who do should have their rights stripped. What does that mean? Does he want your Google searches to be checked to see when you started looking things up? He also wants to raise the voting age to 21. He wants voters to be tested to even qualify.
Look at what conservatives scream about during elections. Voters where their signature is slightly different, when their name matches a dead person, when purged voters try to vote because they haven’t voted in awhile, illegals voting in mass, voting by mail, voting at the wrong location, etc. They’re trying to stop people who most likely won’t vote for them. They push wild conspiracies, but if you believe their conspiracies, they think you are good to vote. Problems exist on both sides, then again, if two cars caught fire in opposite sides of the same city on the same day and one of them was a Tesla, which one would be all over the news the next day?
The moral here is never let anyone tell you that your inspiration is wrong. Ordinary individuals are inspired to do extraordinary things every day, and all it takes is that spark of inspiration. Now, go out and do something cool or something!
I know you LIBTARDS are going to say SOMETHING about School Shootings and Body Parts Falling Off so let me TELL you that she said CHOPPED OFF you Dumb Marxists! We ONLY care if they get CHOPPED off not SHOT off or MASSACRED off!
Look, just try and get it done. Go see what it takes, if it’s really as easy as they keep telling you. Take your kid and see how far you can get in trying to surgically transition them. You can always back out at the last second. Don’t just take the talking heads’ word for it, go see for yourself how far you can get along that process before a medical professional tells you “no.”
I concur, from personal experience.
Any gender transition related healthcare - even just hormone therapy - is a long and involved process that requires multiple doctor and therapist visits, even for adults. And you have to be quite determined and strongly advocate for yourself the entire time, or the process will get derailed.
People who claim that gender transition healthcare is “easy” or “sudden” are just making shit up.
No
Yeah, that’s what you’ll hear, immediately. Nobody anywhere is going to surgically transition a kid.
My father refused my offer on a trip to Portland during the election cycle 6 (4?) years ago.
I stopped talking to my father 4 years ago and I haven’t been happier.
“…these children have body parts chopped off.”
From an abortion? That’s not how it works, Megyn. That’s not how any of this works, you disingenuous dunce.
ETA: Oh, she’s referring to trans kids? (Thanks for the clarification Dkarma) That makes a bit more sense. But still utter crap.
She’s talking about trans kids. Also a lie.
This woman has a TV show? She’s craaaazzzyyyy!
Will not someone think of the magats?!!
“F you, Taylor Swift!” shouted Megyn Kelly, “and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”
Weird
The current Republican platform is largely based on stupid easily disproven lies. I’m convinced our fall to fascism is caused by stupidity as much as it is hatred.
“Doctors are cutting little boys dicks off because they like the color pink!”
“They’re performing abortions after birth!”
“Haitians are eating all the cats and dogs!”
“They’re putting litter boxes in the school bathrooms!”
There’s really only two kinds of Republican: The evil ones who spread these lies intentionally, and the stupid ones who believe this dumb shit.
Nonense! There’s a third kind who is both stupid and evil. They may even be the majority.
Hatred is stupidity. Always has been.
Hatred is also taught.
Its sad that kids are in MAGA as well due to this.
Never underestimate how much destruction stupid people with power can cause.
This is why evil rarely succeeds in the long-term: when you have that many self-absorbed fucks attempt to work together, it rarely yields anything useful.
yeah, but it takes a fraction of the time to destroy than to build. They don’t need long-term, they can wreak havoc in one term
Good point 🍻
The current Republican platform is largely based on stupid easily disproven lies.
It’s worth mentioning that this strategy is straight out of the trolling playbook. The overall idea is to get everyone to waste their time arguing nonsense, making it impossible to discuss anything of merit. While the following article applies to internet forums, it’s not hard to see how any social media, TV, or radio, can spill over into our day-to-day discourse and have the same effect: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7573649/
In this case, the topic at hand meets multiple criteria for deliberate trolling. IMO, there’s little room for doubt that we’re being led by the nose and baited to waste valuable pre-election time:
- Digression - Luring others into off-topic discussions by spamming, partaking in cascades or introducing tangential topics (e.g., as in [16]).
- (Hypo)criticism - Excessive criticism of others, e.g. on their punctuation while possibly committing the same errors oneself.
- Antipathy - Creation of a sensitive or antagonistic context through purposeful provocation, in order to manipulate others to produce emotional responses.
- Endangering - Giving out poor advice under an innocent guise, and others are compelled to respond in order to protect others.
- Shocking - Posting about taboos or sensitive subjects, such as religion, death or human rights.
- Aggression - Deliberate and open aggressing of others into retaliating (e.g., by name-calling or foul language).
I would love to see more of the Democrats platform displayed, argued, justified and rationalized, but there’s literally no reason to talk about any of that when the other side has less discussion than a headless chicken.
I hope the right can someday see how bad they are for policy in general.
There’s really only two kinds of Republican: The evil ones who spread these lies intentionally, and the stupid ones who believe this dumb shit.
The litter box thing annoys me so much. Like, do you have any idea how quickly that shit would fucking go viral if it were true? Like, every damn kid would post about it online. It’s so fucking stupid!
do you have any idea how quickly that shit would fucking go viral if it were true
But it was true! Just not in the way that was claimed: They had these litterboxes in case they had to barricade in the classroom for extended periods of time due to a school-shooter that the police didn’t bother to stop quickly…
So yes, it really is a fucked up story, just in a very different way from what republicans claimed.
Remember when NBC hired Kelly in 2017, she gave Putin a platform to spread his propaganda, she got demoted, and then eventually fired for racism? Who could have guessed that she was just another maga conspiracy nut?
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Wow, I didn’t know Megyn Kelly was such a staunch circumcision opponent
Mud flaps down to her knees.
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Imma need the stats on this so I can throw it in someone’s face later.
Why do you need stats? It’s not like they matter to Christians.
Yeah they traditionally just get the truthiness level by looking it up in their gut.
Yeah they traditionally just get the truthiness level by
looking it up in their gut.standing up and pulling it out of their buttI was making a reference to a classic Colbert Report meme
he’s just saying the quiet part out loud (your gut includes your colon)
God can we please leave this weird obsession with circumcision on reddit? You’re not wrong, it’s just such a weird thing to focus on all the goddamn time.
It’s a bodily autonomy issue that has justifiably left a lot of men feeling powerless and angry. People are gonna talk about it.
It’s a dick topic of extremely minimal consequence in the grand scheme that just makes spaces like this looks like a bunch of dick-obsessed weirdos complaining because their dicks are too small.
Like I said, you’re not wrong on the topic, it’s just being so focused on the topic in the first place is fucking weird.
Some of us think consent is not a topic of “extremely minimal consequence”.
It’s a dick topic of extremely minimal consequence in the grand scheme
I disagree. I think this country has a problem with respecting bodily autonomy, and a large part of that is men trying to legislate women’s bodies. Showing these men that they have a horse in the bodily autonomy race so to speak is a good thing. Maybe it’s only a minimal effect, but it’s a potential pathway out of harmful beliefs.
this looks like a bunch of dick-obsessed weirdos complaining because their dicks are too small.
it’s just being so focused on the topic in the first place is fucking weird.
I’ve been on lemmy for about a year now. And this one off handed thread is the only place I’ve seen this topic discussed, in the entirety of this last year. I think you are vastly overstating the frequency to which this is discussed.
To the first point, I’d argue that men centering themselves in the discussion which largely centers around attempts to remove bodily autonomy from women only hurts, not helps the cause.
To the second point, it has come up a few times, but yes, the reason I said “leave this on reddit” was preemptive, before the problem migrates here from reddit where the topic is rampant is insanely zealous most often.
I’d argue that men centering themselves in the discussion which largely centers around attempts to remove bodily autonomy from women only hurts, not helps the cause.
I think we’d have to take a poll from the general population and compare it with a poll from an anti-circumcision group and compare it to be sure.
Regardless, I said it was a pathway, not a guarantee.
Does talking about dicks make you uncomfortable?
Not in the slightest. I’ll happily talk dicks with you all day; I’m extremely sexually liberal.
But talking about dicks isn’t the same as listening to a bunch of chud weirdos whining and crying about the world’s least consequential issue that’s they’re only mad about because deep down they ignorantly think their tiny dicks would be bigger if they hadn’t had their foreskins stolen.
Again, it’s just a weird fucking thing to focus on. Bring it up when the topic comes up, of course, but to fucking insert it in conversations as if it’s relevant, as was done in this post, will always be weird.
But hey, if you wanna talk about dicks for fun, I’m game. Mine curves slightly to the left, how about you?
And the reason more than one woman has needed a hysterectomy after being denied a medically necessary abortion.
In the U.S. it’s not necessarily a christian thing. But the ven diagram of people who circumcise their children in the U.S. and chrstians is very close to a circle.
But the ven diagram of people who circumcise their children in the U.S. and chrstians is very close to a circle.
Sorry, but that’s not even close. Male circumcision is very commonly practiced among the Jewish and Islamic faiths as well as American Christians, who I guess just can’t resist a fad.
According to current estimations, approximately 30% of all males across the world— representing a total of approximately 670 million men — are circumcised. Of this number, about 68% are of Islamic faith, less than 1% of Jewish faith, and 13% are non-Muslim, non-Jewish Americans.
You’re giving the world numbers. Olgratin was talking about the US. I don’t know the US numbers but they could very well be quite different.
Which is why I said it was very close, not “a damn near circle” like people normally say with that phrase.
Megyn? How is that supposed to be pronounced?
멱윤
Weirdo Republican Talking Head No. 3464592
Actually, this name traces all the way back to the first cavewoman gynecologist. At the time, they named themselves based on their professions. Megyn is short for “me gynecologist”.
Underrated comment.
Throw me a bone. I don’t get it.
It’s a reference to Trump insulting Harris by refusing to say “Kamala” correctly.
“and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”
As someone living in a country whey we don’t chop off the foreskin of little children, whereas conservative Americans love that chopping procedure, I find this statement slightly amusing.
Not just little children, infants.
Babies. They mutilate the genitals of their babies because they believe their god desires it.
It’s called mental illness. These people aren’t simply “weird”. They’re insane, a danger to their children, their communities, and their country.
They mutilate the genitals of their babies because John Harvey Kellogg thought it would prevent masturbation
There’s some truth in this, but I think we should be mindful of nuance. Some parents do need to make decisions for medical reasons. Those reasons are often still exaggerated, and many parents aren’t making an informed decision. I’ve had friends that required the procedure after puberty, but I’m pretty sure they’ve said there was no way they could have known prior to puberty anyway. I don’t know anyone that needed it as a baby, but it can happen when obstructions develop in utero.
Circumcision as medical treatment is fine, as long as it’s legitimate; though I also have a strong suspicion that most medical circumcision — due to phimosis — is actually due to the sexual shame of religious “cultures”, and simply wouldn’t be necessary if parents actually washed their babies/infants penises properly (by pulling back the foreskin) and teaching them to do the same. Obviously the foreskin stiffens and fuses shut when it’s not stretched for years — no different to any other body part. I remember it took weeks to masturbate because I rarely pulled the skin back, and trying to do so took time to stretch it out. I could have easily ended up with phimosis in slightly different circumstances… I could barely touch my toes 3 months ago; now, after stretching a few times a week, I can stand on my palms.
It’s not like a significant number of other ape species experience this disorder. If the foreskin wasn’t beneficial then we wouldn’t have it. We don’t cut our ears off because it’s easier to clean the area without them, either.
But that’s how you show God that your baby deserves to be in Heaven!!!
🌭🪓✝️
I didn’t know we were doing genital checks at the Pearly Gates, God is a weirdo.
Also, especially since your body remains on earth. Does your soul have genitalia?
No, but your souls takes that piece of soul-foreskin with it and drops it off in a little turn style like a ticket.
That’s how god gets it’s treats, I read that in the Bible.
You get the perfect sized everything in heaven.
What did you think the “pearly” in Pearly Gates was about?
Nah that’s how you avoid STDs and dick cheese tho… 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
Wearing a condom and showering are how you prevent those. There are slight to moderate reductions in a few STDs/STIs, but wearing a condom is the actual prevention method instead of a coin flip. This isn’t to mention that cutting or burning a portion of a human off should probably involve some consent.
Lul that dude is telling on himself for his level of hygiene. As someone with a foreskin I keep mine extremely clean, if I’m at home I even rinse and dry after peeing. Also, some girls are Into foreskin.
Circumcision does not prevent STDs.
Bathing and showering is also a thing.The solution to athlete’s foot is to chop off your toes. Harder to get foot fungus without all those pointless crevices.
They have a covenant with their diety about slicing up little baby penises and this is the shit they say. Incredible.
Remember, God hates the tips
Republicans: Cancel culture is ruining the country!
Also Republicans: You endorsed Harris? Kiss your Republican record sales goodbye!
The hypocrisy is a feature
… of non-autistic humans. Which is why I like systems not reliant on what somebody considers kind.
Wait what? I can’t tell if you’re serious, but if so, I’d love to see research on the first part of your comment. If you were joking please feel free to ignore me.
No, just experience.
“Normal” people lie and bend morals so naturally that they don’t see it. The discourse in their social bubble is more important than reality for them. They can say and believe absolutely contradictory things, which just have to be accepted as true by their social environment.
How can there be any research on this? It’s literally normal. It’s how political agitation works.
About autistic people not doing this - autistic people take discourses even more radically, but that kinda helps, because you have to check yourself for your perceptions to work with the real world at all. Also due to the effort needed to switch between various discourses, which happens naturally for normals, autistic people notice the fact that they switch.
Normals don’t need that and thus can live all their life in common dreams.
I think I could find something more scientific to read on these things, but why would I really, it’s obvious.
One of my favorite pass times is asking ChatGPT my hypotheses with prompts to search the web for academic sources (the free version is limited, but it works for a good few prompts over a few hours and let’s you know when the cool down period is over).
Any time we make claims, it’s very likely at this stage of human technology that there’s research on it you can access and hone ideas around. Anecdotes can be really powerful in driving our interests and pursuit of knowledge, but I think we should always check in and be aware we’re biased, fallible, sometimes hypocritical creatures.
I’m not sure if you are reinforcing the request for a source or agreeing with me, ha-ha.
I’ll try. But my own experience with using those chatbots to find sources is not satisfactory, but then I was trying to find sources on very specific things.
I was reinforcing the request. I did a couple general prompts with your claim and think there’s some research to support it, though it’s not much; and, as with anything, there’s nuance.
WTF does autism have to do with anything?
Impaired social abilities mean smaller attack surface for propaganda and groupthink.
Seems obvious, that’s the main thing autism is, that’s why it’s called a u t i s m .
No no no, you see, when the left does it, it’s cancel culture and literally communism. When the right does it, it’s voting with your dollar, literally capitalism. Not comparable at all!!
/s
Which is hilarious since the main source of income for musicians ever since streaming took off is live shows and merch… albums are a vehicle to drive attendance at concerts, for which Swift is pretty good at packing stadiums full of people. Even if she loses 30% of her listeners, she’ll still sell out concerts and total revenue would likely be about the same because those seats will be taken up by other fans who would have otherwise missed out on the sold-out show.
… Ben Shapiro accusing other people of not being smart enough to vote…
He should practice what he preaches and not vote, himself.
He should vote, because everyone should vote.
Fuck Ben Shapiro, he’s some combination of idiot and willing stooge, but voting only works when everyone gets to vote. Unlike these right-wing fuckwits, I’m not willing to disenfranchise voters just because I perceive them as being less intelligent than me.
EDIT: I am shocked that supporting a fair and equal democracy seems to be at least sort of controversial around here. If you genuinely believe a given category of people should be disallowed from voting, please reconsider your values.
Lol you vote for more dog food available, they vote people to die. Same same.
This is not a “both sides are the same” argument. Only that if you start to discuss who should and should not be allowed to vote, you are no longer creating a democracy. That is a dictatorship with extra steps.
A cunt that is tolerant of Nazis doesn’t deserve respect or a vote homie that’s reality.
*food dog, duh
Yes, because telling someone to practice what they preach is disenfranchising them.
C’mon, now.
Voting is his right, it his obligation. If he wanted to show he’s not a total fucking liar and hypocrite…. He should chose to not vote because he’s definitely stupider than the vast majority of swifties.
To be fair, most rocks have enough intelligence to be smarter than him… and they’re inanimate.
No, but telling someone they shouldn’t be allowed to vote is saying you believe they should be disenfranchised.
Again.
You’re saying things I did not say.
At no point did I suggest he should he not be allowed to vote.
I’m saying if he truly believes that stupid people should not vote…. then he should not vote himself.
This is substantially different that disallowing him to vote.
Tl/dr? I’m just calling him stupid.
Never forget his hypothetical about selling your underwater home. Dude has the intelligence of the fish he thinks would buy it.
Shapiro is not an idiot, he’s arrogant. He believes that when the fascists and alt-right freaks come for every other racial, sexual and religious minority, including his own, they will spare him because he was on their side and he is special
I can’t believe the leopard is eating MY face.
- Ben Shapiro
