Moreover, according to a senior Democratic official, the party leadership would have much more control over choosing a replacement if Biden were to drop out after receiving the nomination than if he did so beforehand. Once a candidate is officially nominated, there is a process for the Democratic National Committee members to choose a successor. Biden is the dominant force at the DNC, and his preference for a successor would surely carry sway.

If Biden were to exit before that, his delegates might do what he asked of them — but they wouldn’t be bound in the same way they are now. In that scenario, the delegates could nominate anyone, and there could be a political brawl at the convention.

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    One bad debate and suddenly there’s endless talk of replacement? It ain’t happening. This is media fantasizing. Pointless.

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      I can’t think of worse debate performance. Nixon profusely sweating? Pretty bad, but at least he was coherent.

      Mondale not being able to counter Regan’s age deflecting quip? Damn. That’s so tough one when the crowds turned.

      The Gore eye roll? Well damn that sucks.

      But this was a debate long fugue state. At best, some Trump previous incoherent ramblings are close, but still not as bad.

      This was seriously bad. And everyone failing to see that and trying to minimize it is attempting and failing to gaslight everyone else.

      There maybe no replacement available, but at least call a spade a spade.

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        Stating Trump’s constant lies and not answering questions was “not as bad” and the following that with a racial slur.

        You are either a shitty bot or your Russian employer should fire you for sucking at this.

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      I feel like the left is kinda cannibalising itself.

      The right has fielded a candidate who will end democracy, and we can’t even unite against them.

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        This is not the left cannibalizing itself. This is the democrat leadership taking advantage of a candidate who will end democracy and instead propping up progressively worse candidates election after election. Instead of going with a candidate that is even moderately popular with the left of the party, the democrats put in a candidate who is best known for compromising with the right.

        It’s, frankly, the result of the wealth of the democrat party stomping down anyone that would potentially raise their tax burden.

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        We should… *rolls dice*… meet them in the middle! That’ll capture independents, undecideds, and less conservative conservatives!

        Someone help me push this overton window.

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      Yeah, ain’t gonna happen because Biden would have to step aside. The time for him to do that was last November.

      This is going to be really bad and I blame Biden and the Democrats in 2020 that decided an 80 year old was a good pick.

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        A big part of this decision is happening right now at Camp David with his family, according to the article:

        President Joe Biden is expected to discuss the future of his re-election campaign with family at Camp David on Sunday, following a nationally televised debate Thursday that left many fellow Democrats worried about his ability to beat former President Donald trump in November, according to five people familiar with the matter.

        Let’s face reality:

        • Biden is TEN POINTS nationally below where he was at this time in 2020.
        • Biden is losing in every single battleground state.
        • Biden is losing a large chunk of black and Hispanic voters compared to his 2020 run.
        • Biden’s aggregate approval ratings for Presidency are 37.7% with 56.7% disapproval.

        … Biden asked for that debate because he was desperate to break the downward trend and reach these battleground swing-state voters. That backfired in the worst possible way.

        The time is now, before the convention, and with enough time for an alternative candidate to be selected and ramp up campaigning. There are half a dozen candidates who fit the bill and have a semi-national profile, are YOUNGER, and have enough charisma and debate skills to beat Trump — almost by default by being a fresh face and younger

        Anyone who says there isn’t enough time doesn’t understand just how much FREE viral media attention this would all receive. Every single person should be pushing for this to happen now. Because if Biden makes another gaffe like this in October or a medical emergency, then we are REALLY fucked.

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      I’m going to qualify this with the fact that I would vote for a corpse before I vote for Trump, I’m just frustrated the Democrats are actually making me.

      Nobody’s worried that he had a bad debate. It was a massacre. Trump would loudly answer some unrelated question with how we have to murder/deport all Latinos, and on Biden’s turn, he’d just say “I’ve never heard such Malarkey”, take a breath, mumble three words, take a breath, mumble three words, take a breath, mumble three words, and then get lost. That’s not a bad debate performance, that’s somebody’s lost grandpa. They’re worried- I’m worried- because he seems unfit to be a Wal-Mart greeter, let alone president. I keep being told that we have too much at stake this election, and it’s true, so I’m currently bewildered that we’re staking the whole ass future of our democracy to a man who might no longer be fit to even drive. This is the time to bring the best we have to offer, to go as hard as possible, because I’m reading Project 2025 right now and it reads to me that the republicans intend to enforce what they determine to be social norms with murder. Instead, we’ve got a guy that can hardly make a campaign ad without sounding out of breath with the DNC basically flashing back to Hillary and saying shit like “no, YOU’RE out of touch” and “well, you don’t have any choice; what are you going to do, vote for that Bozo?” And we all saw how that turned out. People have already, in fact, elected that Bozo once before. There’s no reason to think it can’t happen again. If the folks at the DNC aren’t already white knuckling the wheel, then they must be the most delusional people on the planet.