• CaptainProton@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      I’m autistic, does that automatically make me an incompetent who can act with impunity because I can be impulsive? This logic only hurts the people you’re pretending to help. Law doesn’t care about intent except for sentencing.

      Inside his house, you’d be right and the cop ran away. After he’s outside, he sees it’s a cop, and charges him in anger with a big pointy metal thing. Do you expect the cop to divine someone’s psychological diagnosis? What if it’s a brain tumor that makes him actively murderous? Is everyone in the walking dead committing murder by killing the poor zombies who cannot help themselves?

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        8 months ago

        You’re going down a slippery slope there my guy. I’m just saying mental health should always be a consideration. Dude was walking towards the cop at a speed where the cop could have just kicked him down. Or even if he had to use the gun, just immobilize the kid by shooting his legs, not murder them.

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          8 months ago

          “should always be a consideration” is a platudinous way of avoiding the rest of what you said.

          Nobody, literally nobody, teaches tactics you describe. That’s 100% Hollywood where only the writer gets to kill the hero. It’s not like moving your mouse and clicking or pressing E to melee. With adrenaline and under time pressure, you do not have the kind of fine motor coordination necessary - there have been cases of master-class competitive shooters taking an opportunity to take a shot like that because they’re basically John Wick and the technique is muscle memory, but law enforcement is militarized enough as it is, we don’t need police qualification to be a USPSA “A” classification.

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            8 months ago

            Slippery slope again.

            I work with the autistic population. There are ways we can train police officers to be better, not even against autistic folks but the entire population as a whole. The issue here are the cops and how they’re trained. Not the mentally ill person.

            Yes, if a mentally ill person is murders, we should charge them for murder. But they have the option to plead mental illness and be sent somewhere else. You can’t have those options if you’re shot dead.

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      8 months ago

      It was and will be ruled so when the investigation is complete. No one wants to see a 15 year old die, but it was clearly justified.

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        8 months ago

        Says the person who would have shot grandma for holding on to garden shears as she walks towards you slowly.

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          8 months ago

          That’s a different scenario. If someone is slowly advancing, non lethal tools can be used. When someone is charging full speed, they can’t.

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      8 months ago

      I’m on the spectrum aswell but I’m under no illusion that it’s going to protect me from violence if I go around physically attacking other people.