• BmeBenji@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    Did you just say Apple would try to prevent their users from switching to iMessage? Apple knows iMessage is a massive selling point for iPhones which is the reason Apple is so afraid of opening iMessage up to begin with.

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      Bu that’s the point, it isn’t a selling point in europe. People here mainly use WhatsApp. As a european iPhone user with a lot of other iPhone users in my social circle I pretty much never get an iMessage. I got one two weeks ago, but before that my last iMessage was in 2018. I’ve never heard anyone here talk about blue vs green bubbles and never heard iMessage mentioned in an Android vs iOS discussion.

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        7 months ago

        It is a major point of social pressure. People get legitimately upset when they start a group chat and realize one of the members doesn’t have an iPhone. That absolutely makes it valuable to Apple

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          That’s a minor irritation, hardly a reason to completely swap ecosystems. This sounds fringe/speculative. There is no way this is an actual driver of iPhone adoption. Any sources?

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            I agree it’s a minor irritation by most standards, but when all that’s on the line is making jokes about someone based on their choice of phone there’s no reason not to pressure someone else. As to sources, I see it happen all the time. I used to be the one who upset people, then I bought an iPhone and almost everyone I texted got really excited to see the color of our chat change. I’ve also seen countless memes about green chat bubbles and people ruining group chats because of their Androids. I’m not sure you’re going to get much more reliable sources than anecdotal ones for something like this.

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            Well, if you don’t know that, it means that either, you are not a US citizen, which we ruled out, ooooor… oooh, I hate to break it to you but… you have lost touch with “the youngsters” as they say. You are old.

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              Show me a source that people are buying iPhones so they can use iMessage. This sounds like a gut/“it sounds true” statement to me. I would be surprised if it was an actual driver of sales in any meaningful way.

              There’s no need for the sarcasm/tone.

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                What tone? I was pulling your leg a little, as in “haha u old”, no sarcasm intended.

                Regarding the sources: I just did a quick google and here is the most trustworthy source of business insider: https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-iphone-ownership-creates-culture-of-multitasking-2019-6

                that aside, one of the connections I have to the US has kids and her kids actually experienced some isolation because the kids only had “cheap android” and thus couldn’t use iMessages which was what all the other kids pointedly used because teenagers are suckers for made up common identity bullshit. It was that one specific brand of baggies when I was young, now iit seems to be iPhones in some places.

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                  This article is 5 years old and it would be a massive stretch to say it proves people buy iPhones in any appreciable number for iMessage. I get what you’re driving at but this is very indirect, dated, and just overall insufficient. It’s mainly about multitasking at the end of the day.

                  I guess I misread the tone, no worries.

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        @skullgiver For Apple, the US I think is their main market. Here is still that thing that you need to be rich enough to afford, so this is why iMessage is not such a great thing.

        I think that by staying below the EU radar they get to keep their walls for the US users, where regulations are more lax and don’t pose any risk for their business model.

        @BmeBenji