recent: tears of the kingdom, or as i like to call it botw 1.2, its the same thing all over again just with one or two added gimicks, the open world is dead, npcs are boring and nintendo just got away with it like that

not so recent: i cant stand persona 5, joker and his entourage are annoying teenagers, the time management is a horrible gameplay addition and the artstyle is just a visual overstimulation

with that being said,~~ plz dont kill me~~

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    I’ll probably get roasted for this but… Pokemon. It just seems like endless copy/paste and might be one of the laziest game franchises I’ve ever seen. I’ve really tried to get into them. I was there when the Pokemon cartoon started, I saw it rise to the phenomenon it is today, but damn if it isn’t the most boring grindfest ever.

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      it doesnt just feel like copy paste, thats quite literally what they are doing, there is plenty of evidence online to show that they do but hey, if you can make whatever low effort thing you want and people still buy it why bother trying?

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      I do agree that it’s the same thing recycled over and over.

      If anyone does want to play them again, I highly recommend emulating them and accelerating the emulation to 2.5 or 3x speed. Makes it much more tolerable.

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      They get away with the copy-paste because the combat system is fundamentally extremely solid.

      The good thing about this is that programming-savvy fans have been creating free fan-games based on the formula for the last decade or so. As with any fan-made content the quality is extremely variable, but I have found some of the newer releases to be genuinely good games, better than anything GameFreak has put out in the last 20 years. Pokémon Unbound is a personal favorite - if you enjoy the fundamentals of the Pokémon games but feel the lack of creativity and puzzle-solving in the official releases I would suggest giving them a look.

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        True, I’m not saying anything I haven’t heard before. It’s just crazy that people keep buying it thinking “Maybe this one will match the memories I had when I was 10.” I guess nostalgia is a powerful drug. Even more powerful than I thought… just looked up the Pokemon franchises worth and it’s estimated at 74 billion. Now I know how boomers feel cause I just don’t get it.

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          Yeah I don’t get it either. I don’t even get the nostalgia aspect, there are just so many new Pokémon that I feel they completely drown out the ones I grew up with, the first like 250 iirc, I have no desire whatsoever to play the new games.

          But I suppose it’s still very popular with kids all around the world as well so there’s that.

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      The pokemon fan games have been way more inventive than the mainline games for a while now. I just recently have been getting into pokemon infinite fusion and it’s FANTASTIC

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        I so badly want to play infinite fusion but I cant seem to get it to work, it crashes everywhere I’ve tried to play :(

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          I’ve also had a ton of stability issues with it, but I assume that’s because I was running it through Crossover on my Mac. I just save often. If you can’t get it to open, I really don’t know how to help :(

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    Red Dead Redemption 2. Everyone goes on about how awesome it is, but I just found the story and gameplay really slow and dull.

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      RDR2 suffers heavily from the same problem as GTAV’s single player mode: it’s a movie posing as a video game and both aspects suffer for it.

      RDR2 would have been great if it was just the part where you wander around tracking critters and collecting flowers and playing cowboy dress-up, but the game really doesn’t want you to do that. Not to belabor the point, but between how unpredictable the connection between “interact with item/character X” and “start mission with character Y” can be and the game’s tendency to fail missions the second you go off-script, RDR2 often felt like it was directed by someone who actively resented the concept of player agency.

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        You articulated my issue with it perfectly. In theory it was this amazing open world with tons of player freedom, but the minute you engage with the actual story at all you have no choice in anything. There was one quest where I HAD to rescue Micah and kill a butt load of people which really annoyed me given I was going for a white hat run.

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      Rockstar has been moving that way in general for years. They get so focused on the immersive and sim stuff, they forget that they made their name on over-the-top chaotic fun. Everything from GTA4 onward suffers for it, other than RDR1 that struck a decent balance between the approaches.

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        I was really enjoying it, but I eventually got bogged down in the sidequests, and it really could’ve used a low-gore mode. The bloody deer carcasses got to me after a while.

        I think I might have preferred it if it were a little smaller and more focused on the main storylines.

        I do intend to go back to it sooner or later though.

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      Same here. It was so frustrating trying to play it.

      Here’s a pretty awesome looking intricate and interesting world. No, you can go over there. Or there. Or do that

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      My main grip with this game is how slow ans cranky everything feels. I miss the arcade feel of RDR1.

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      My friends love it, but two hours in, I just feel worn.

      Then I just drop it and never look back.

      Can’t get it to stick.

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    I still can’t make it through any of The Witcher games. Smooth and satisfying gameplay is super important for me to enjoy a game, and The Witcher has always felt slow, clunky, unintuitive, and super menu-heavy. I’m sure the story is great! But I just can’t get past its gameplay.

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      I adore Witcher 3. That said I’ve always said controlling Geralt feels like driving a boat. God help you for the very few instances that you do platforming.

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        They added a different control style sometimes after release, didn’t they? I can’t recall the specific difference, but I think I used it for my playthroughs and it was less boat-y.

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          Yeah, pretty quickly. Maybe a month? I remember playing it basically at launch, and deciding I was going to return it, but stopped when they said they were working on an alternative control scheme.

          It was actually worse than it is now.

          Didn’t return it, but much like others in this thread, never got it to stick. Doesn’t feel good to play.

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          Even with trying that new control style I still had to go through and download a good 10-15 simple QoL mods just to put up with the game and how floaty and slippery Geralt feels to control

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      Same here. I really want to like The Witcher 3, but after trying to play it for 10 hours without feeling any enjoyment, I just gave up.

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      I’m playing mainly western RPG’s like that, but I also couldn’t get into The Witcher. The gameplay is fine actually (I played way more clunky games with lots of enjoyment). But somehow Gerald just never clicked with me, causing me never to feel really connected to my character and to what’s happening.

      It’s sad because I can notice how good the games are, but I just really cannot get into it.

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      I couldn’t get into Witcher 3 for a very silly reason. I’m a delicate white man who couldnt stand being the target of racism in a game. I played for like, 3 hours and just felt sad.

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      It took me 3 attempts at starting The Witcher before I eventually got through it. I had just came off of Dark Souls 3 combat, so the combat in Witcher was especially clunky feeling. Eventually I moved into a new home, had nothing else to do, and proceeded to do nothing but play the game for 50 hours until I beat the game lol. I would say the story is worth it, but I agree that its kinda tough to get into.

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      I tried to play Witcher 3 and the combination of strange camera angles and very “tradional rpg” style icons put me off (the later is a really sad thing to be bugged by but whatever) - the interface for everything just seemed very outdated

      However, I now have a PS5 and i believe the PS5 update has huge improvements including to camera angles etc, so I may give it another go.

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    Any game that has daily login bonuses or a bonus for playing every day. Animal crossing pocket or whatever it is. Pokémon go. A bunch of afk phone games. A bunch of gacha games. It just feels so shallow to me. Like, I’m not being manipulated to play something, I just end up feeling so guilty to lose a streak I’d rather delete the game.

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      While not a daily login bonus, the weekly and monthly tasklist of Forza Horizon 5 killed the game for me. It triggered some sort of fomo and I would rush in every week to grind the new tasks/events. That burned me out very fast, so I could not enjoy the rest of the game.

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      I think this CAN work if you naturally enjoy the game, but don’t want to make decisions about your game plan when you boot up.

      I like Deep Rock Galactic. When given 15 mission options, I get choice paralysis, so it’s nice to have dailies/assignments that at least push me into a particular one just to get started.

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    Didn’t play Skyrim at the time and the two times I’ve tried to get into It didn’t really click for me. I understand why people like It, may give another try sometime

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      Oh thank god, I came here to say Skyrim and was afraid of being the only one.

      I should have liked it. Absolutely loved Morrowind. But just never could get into Skyrim despite multiple attempts and now I’ve given up.

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        In all fairness, you wouldn’t like it just because you liked Morrowind. The games play entirely different from one another and the story of Skyrim is a downgrade by several margins (though some of the sidequests are awesome).

        This is coming from someone who has like 200 hours in Skyrim.

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      Perhaps try a total conversion, skyrim is basically a mod engine anyway lel

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        I tried that, but in the end it turns out I found hunting for mods more fun than actually playing them.

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      I could never get over the fucking monotone same-voice way every NPC speaks.

      Everything about that game felt monotone, to me.

      I think about trying again, once in a while, but haven’t yet. They keep releasing new versions at prices I’m not willing to pay for it.

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      I never managed to get far in Skyrim. And even if you like it, I don’t think it’s too controversial to say that it has one of the worst intros for an open world game.

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    The Witcher 3.

    It just feels so generic and suffers from one of the things I hate the most about rpgs. Endless sidequests that have nothing to do with the main quest.

    Cyberpunk 2077. The first part was really enjoyable. Then you get to the open world part and it suffers from the same issue as the Witcher above and also has fiddly levelling up/skill tree. Also it’s overwhelming. You’re on a mission. The phone calls. Sone rando wants you for a job. Start job. The phone calls. There’s an out of control ai taxi…repeat. Just too much information at once and mostly for stuff unrelated to the fact your character has a very personal and important mission.

    Survival/Builder games I find incredibly boring.

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      Witcher 3 felt more like “I have sex and you should know about it” the game, to me at least

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    Diablo and Diablo-style games like Torchlight. Every time a new one comes out a few of my friends get excited and I’ve been convinced to try it again, but I think I’ve learned my lesson finally and I have skipped Diablo IV.

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      Diablo and Diablo 2 robbed years of my life. I just can’t get the same enjoyment out of any other game of the genre. I legit tried to give D3 a try… it was nothing the same… not even close.

      I don’t why Diablo and D2 were so damn good (IMO) and why the others just aren’t.

      RTS games have similar problems for me too… I played C&C and Starcraft a lot… there’ve been no other RTS games that I can even tolerate. Even going back and playing the C&C remaster… It’s just better even though it’s laden with old game QOL issues.

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      Glad to hear I’m not the only one. Something about the isometric/top-down ARPG genre has never clicked with me, and I really can’t figure out why. I’ve tried torchlight, every diablo (except 4), path of exile - I end up bouncing off of them after a week or so and just lose interest.

      It makes even less sense when you consider I can sink 300+ hours into Souls/Elden Ring or Xenoblade… Something about the format just doesn’t work for me, I guess.

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    Honestly most online games. I just prefer to game alone than with strangers or even friends. And while there are exceptions to the next point, I am well aware. But I also don’t feel like spending my free time having rando’s on the internet hate me for not being some awesome e-sporter, or be called a hacker when it does go well, as often seems to be how it goes. Like, I don’t get why people would spend their free time on something that just tends to make everything so negative. I have more fun things to do in my free time than get complained at… Honestly, the few online games I do like, you can play alone, and I mainly do, like ESO.

    But one of the most loved games that I hate the most is GTA V. It’s so full of hackers it’s nearly impossible to do anything. Heck, I couldn’t even go buy a new outfit because some stupid guy was spawning shopping cards above everyones head causing the store to close and me to loose my whole selection of stuff I wanted to buy… Just why…

    I also keep getting confused with the controlls somehow. Wanna get in your friends car picking you up? End up jumping on it’s roof or kicking it instead… It’s not that I can’t game. My hand-eye cordination might suck but that’s not even the issue here. I somehow just keep mixing everything up, while I’m fine with other games.

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    I guess I’ll take the hit for this one. Dark Souls.

    The combat can be really fun and I had a great time fighting the bosses but the slow, careful crawl between boss fights is just so dull to me that it’s not worth it.

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      I agree on that one, but for a slightly different reason. For me it was the camera. For whatever reason I had the feeling I fought the camera more than I fought the enemies. And that kills the fun for me.

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      Came here to say this, from software is clearly really talented at level design and art direction, but I cannot for the life of me find enjoyment in those games because of the overall gameplay experience just being boring.

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      Sekiro and Elden Ring have pretty much ruined any desire I had to play Dark Souls. Sekiro, in particular, seems like a distillation of everything I loved about DS gameplay with zero bloat, and still managed to take me 40 hours to beat.

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    Souls games.

    I like difficult games but I just don’t enjoy the gameplay of Souls games. They feel sluggish and repetitive.

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      Have you tried Nioh/Wolong? While I really like the Souls games for the exploration and world design I much prefer the faster and more complex combat of the Nioh games.

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      Please give sekiro a try if you ever get a chance. It’s like dark souls but for people like us that want good fun gameplay instead of constant bs :D

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      I played Elden Ring for 2 hours and then refunded it. I don’t like that combat style at all.

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    For me botw was that game. I didn’t like the gameplay and many aspects of the game design. In contrast, I’m enjoying totk a lot more. It improved on a few aspects I didn’t like and the gameplay feels closer to what I want in a Zelda game. Overall I’d still prefer them to go in a different direction with the series though.

    But in general, I’m not a fan of a lot of currently popular elements. I don’t need big, open worlds with a lot to do, that just gives me FOMO. I don’t want to build and manage stuff, and make a lot of decisions in my adventure game, I just want a good story and fun traversal and combat. And I don’t need 50+h of gameplay, I don’t have that much time and I usually start burning out after the 20h mark anyway.

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    Honestly, Stardew Valley for me. I’ve tried it a couple times and it just didn’t work for me. I wanted to like it, and I like the idea of it, but in practice, I hated the time management aspect and not being able to just run around and do as much as I wanted in a day (I haven’t played on PC with mods; I know there’s at least one or two that let you change that). I also hated the fishing. 🙃

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    Destiny 2! The game is total trash. The combat is so fucking boring, its just nothing but bullet sponge bosses with simple ass mechanics.

    I know that lots of people love it but man I do not understand lol

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      I’ve played Destiny 2 religiously throughout Warmind up to Shadowkeep, but after giving it some thought, I feel like I agree with you. Most of the fun I’ve had in that game was because I played it with my friends. We were happy messing around and shooting at each other’s backsides and maybe occasionally getting something done in the scarce 3-player content there was, kind of like a glorified hangout space, but if I had to play it by myself? I don’t know, chief. I do love the feel of the guns and the lore (up to a certain point), but I wouldn’t call the game itself a good time.

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    honestly most competitive multiplayer games tbh like league (stretching the definition of everyone loves I know). I just have a hard time learning the game when I feel like I’m dragging the team down

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      I love competitive MP, but I totally know what you mean. CS:GO is what I play with my friends and bottom fragging just stresses me out. Gimme old school Quake duals or duos, or 1v1 fighting games and I’m happy even when I’m losing.

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    I just got done with Subnautica. Man, either I just had shit luck, or that game does NOT respect your time. It’s infuriating to me when I know exactly what I need to do to progress, but I’m blocked by not being able to find a single damn rock out in a giant ocean. I dug the story, but man I was glad to be done with it.