• Chainweasel@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Yeah, I don’t understand hating Biden for something that Netanyahu is doing. And there’s only so much Biden could do other than try to play peacekeeper, which he’s been doing. Pretty much any other actions require congressional support. Biden isn’t a king, he can’t unilaterally declare that we’re ending all support for Israel.
    And yet an insane number of people act like he’s over there killing Palestinians with his bare hands.

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      10 months ago

      I know this sounds crazy, but he could not sell them weapons. He is directly supporting what is happening there by doing so.

      Call back carrier groups, stop selling weapons, and let them deal with their own fucking problems that they caused

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          10 months ago

          It doesnt get much worse than death. Liberals will justify any and every possible action to defend the blue fascist by claiming the red one could be worse. What happened to ‘push him left after the election’

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            10 months ago

            I think left to your satisfaction would be little further than most everyone else wants him, tbf. lol You can’t acknowledge any of the progress he’s made though? Even like, a tiny bit?

            Regarding Gaza, btw, they don’t need our glide bombs to commit a genocide. There’s a whole lot of ways to do an ethnic cleansing, so, you can’t necessarily stop it just by stopping the weapons. It’s not that simple.

            We’d have to sanction them or something, that’d probably do it.

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              10 months ago

              acknowledge any of the progress he’s made though

              No. Prior to Gaza, though Im very critical of him, I did acknowledge a few things. Once he prioritized additional money/weapons and refused a ceasefire while bypassing Congress to allocate more weapons, despite what Israel was doing, and pledging unwavering support. Any progress prior to that is irrelevant. Shipping containers had a higher priority than the lives of Palestinians,

              they don’t need our glide bombs to commit a genocide

              While true, without access to US weapons, including white phosphorous which is restricted under international humanitarian law, it would be much harder to accomplish.

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            10 months ago

            Oh, you’re going to see just how much worse it can get.

            Are you fucking kidding me?? You think this is as bad as it gets? Read a goddamn history book.

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              10 months ago

              Liberals are not that good at projecting outcomes, everything they claimed would happen under Trump if he won 2020 has come true under Biden. So I’ll take your projection with a grain of salt

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          10 months ago

          I mean how many genocides did he do?

          Fuck that stupid blowhard, but at least his genocides are only potential futures, Biden is locked in already at 1

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            What a simply mornonic take. Trump literally tried to pull out of NATO, and he would kill support for Ukraine. There’s your genocide. Oh, and he wouldn’t handle the Palestine situation any differently, so make that 2.

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      10 months ago

      Not to mention Israel is absolutely the most important ally we have in the middle east. As lovely as it would be to openly shit on them and Saudi Arabia for being inhumane jerks, we just don’t have that option. The second we alienate Israel is the second WWIII becomes virtually inevitable. Biden’s choosing between shitty options and shittier options, and like it or not, we need foreign allies in strategic locations, especially since Pax Americana is rapidly collapsing.

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        10 months ago

        If we helped set up a two state solution then we’d have another ally over there. Hell, if we had a one state solution, we’d have one more ally and one less genocidal apartheid state to leash. And tbh, it’s probably better we’re not over there fucking things up anymore.