Timothy Murray lost his father earlier this year and had been asking his principal for counseling when she called in the police
Data from Brownsville ISD seen by The Observer showed its officers made 3,102 student arrests between May 2021 and Nov. 2023. Nearly 60% of those were on felony charges and 76 of those kids were in elementary school.
what the fuck is going on over there
High-speed school-to-prison pipeline. Because inmates=free labour and prisons are for-profit. Gotta get 'em kidz institutionalized as early as possible!
It’s the conservative way. They hold these traditions sacred.
This was what they found in other schools too. One specific location ( I can’t remember where) the dads formed a group to a) keep kids peaceful and b) because they were being sent to jail for schoolyard bs. It was a largely black school. If you want to look it up with the sad details my brain is providing. Sry
Yep. Also noticed that the principal that called the police and the DA refusing to drop the case have the same last name. Garza isn’t that rare of a last name, but it’s not exactly “Smith”, either. I’d bet good money those fuckers are related to each other.
Wait, that’s just slavery with extra steps!
Not “extra steps” but "plausible deniability"😉
What bad slavery when we can evolve it?!?
what the fuck is going on over there
Brownsville is 94% Hispanic or Latino. This is Texas doing Texas shit.
Just republican shit.
Murica! Murica! Murica!
So much for that “stay in school” speech…
What % of those kids were assholes?
asshole doesn’t mean criminal
I’m just saying… you never had a kid in class that was years older then everyone else, not doing shit, disrupting class all the time, getting violent and ending up in jail for attempt murder just after leaving school? I had. I wish there was a way to get him out of school earlier. I would be a better environment for everyone. But there wasn’t so they had to deal with him till he was 18 yo. Then on the other hand if you let teachers kick kids out they will get lazy and start locking up children for anything like in Texas.
So, to be clear, you support prison and solitary confinement for preteens?
Yes, and babies that cry too much.
If you’re trying to be funny, you’ve taken it too far. You should be yeeted into a Texas prison where you claim immature assholes belong, because this situation isn’t a fucking joke.
Holy shit lighten up. It’s not even the original poster, the sarcasm was very obviously implied with that comment.
Edit: nvm, I see now they are tag-teaming. Smells like trolls.
Are you for real? I’m seriously asking, because if you are, you need help.
Not in elementary school
Weird, in my case it was only in elementary school. High school was not mandatory so the disruptive kids simply didn’t go there.
Edit: Oh, just realized that you probably also have middle school. I didn’t. It was the same school from age 7 to 15. Education was mandatory till 18 or 16 yo so the school was stuck with all the stupid kids till then.
Ahhhh right, simple mistake to make. Middle school kids definitely deserve solitary confinement. Fucking what??
I hope that maybe you’re just ignorant to what “solitary confinement” means, but even then, you’re talking about locking children away in fucking prison for misbehaving in 6th grade art class. Get a grip.
Jesus, who’s talking about solitary confinement? Not even the original comment mentioned it. I definitely didn’t. Relax. It’s a shitty situation but getting angry about things you imagined is not going to save anyone.
If being an asshole was illegal Texas would be a prison.
They’re working on it…
Texas. The new Australia.
wtf is wrong with you?
Were you never an asshole as a kid? It’s part of growing up. We work to make them better, but arresting them does nothing worthwhile.
- Kids are kids. Asshole parents raise asshole adults.
76 arrests of elementary students? Does it really matter? I have a hard time believing any arrest is appropriate for that age
Shouldn’t matter. You don’t throw kids in jail just because they are assholes.
You’re making up 110% of them
I’ve tried to understand what the charges are, as far as I could tell it seems it’s somehow related to an anti terrorist law and caused by the kid pulling someone’s hair and gesturing to cut paper with scissors, which was interpreted as gesturing to cut a finger.
The article seems to try very hard to obfuscate the actual reason (I’m guessing for legal reasons?)
In any case, this seems insane, seems like excessive overreaction from everyone involved.
its because there is no actual reason for it. they are still trying to document one
texas, you fuckin cowards.
The whole thing is weird.
His ordeal began five days later. In the late morning of September 8, Timothy was pulled out of music class and ushered into a room where he found Garza, Assistant Principal Michelle Saucedo, a district police officer, and a counselor sent from the district’s central administrative office. He was told another student had just reported that Timothy said he was planning to kill the principal. Rincon said she was called and rushed to the school but was not allowed to be in the room while Timothy was being questioned.
“When the police officer had his body cam off, they were yelling and telling me, ‘We’re gonna go to the full extent. We’re gonna put you in a lockbox,’” Timothy said. “Then, when the body cam was finally on, they were so nice.”
Timothy told me he had explained to the school and district officials that the accusations were not true, that the only conversation he had that morning was with two other boys about wearing his sweater over his uniform.
Rincon has received only a school conduct referral form, on which administrators wrote that “Timothy told another student that his hair was messy because he was up all night to come up with a plan to kill Mrs. Garza (principal).” Underneath, Timothy wrote: “No I was not up all night I just forgot [to comb my hair].”
On the bottom of the form, administrators had written: “OSS [out-of-school suspension] 3 days 9/11-9/13.”
https://www.texasobserver.org/why-was-this-11-year-old-honor-roll-student-put-in-solitary/
Not the point of this article/topic but why is law enforcement required to wear body cameras but they can turn them off whenever they want!? That’s asking for abuse! Unless they’re using the restroom (and even then I’d lean towards an independent reviewer deleting footage, if anyone). These are public servants on-the-clock! If there’s no enforcement, there’s no consequences to purposely deactivating the taxpayer-funded camera they’re supposed to be operating under…
I thought the same thing. Here’s the archived Texas Observer article on it, which is what this article’s source seems to be.
Apparently the principal heard from another student that this kid was “making threats” against her. Sounds pretty thin to me.
Unless the kid brained someone with a tee ball trophy, I categorize this penalty in the “extreme” category.
Texas, bruh.
Obviously the cops and prosecutors are real shitheads here, but I think some blame goes to a piece of shit principal who woukd call the police on an 11 year old.
The DA and Principal are likely related, same last name. I’d bet this isn’t the only incident between these two, with the principal setting up the targets and the DA knocking them down.
She also apparently called CPS on a different mother for questioning her special education program.
None of them should have any kind of power over others. If we ever manage to fix this system despite the dipshits that are trying to break it further, whether system comes next should have a specific focus on preventing people like this from getting power or keeping it if they manage to hide themselves until after they’ve gained power.
And also the stupid law that allows charges against children. Our system of kids under 14 not being “strafmündig” (criminally responsible) is often criticized and has other issues sometimes but at least it prevents shit like this
Chief Wiggum : No Jury in the World is going to convict a baby…Maybe Texas
Is this a real line?
Yes, Season 7 episode 1
Despite being accused of ignoring Texas laws which require parental involvement before such interventions, Cameron County District Attorney Rene Garza told a hearing Wednesday that his office was gathering further evidence against Murray, rather than deciding to drop the charges.
If the law protects you, it will be ignored and the people who ignore it will face no consequences for their lawlessness. The law is for hurting you, and only laws that hurt you count.
What kind of incompetent principal reacts to trouble making elementary schoolers by calling the cops on them?
This article:
https://www.texasobserver.org/why-was-this-11-year-old-honor-roll-student-put-in-solitary/
Should shed some light on the subject. Particularly:
Garza comes from a Brownsville education legacy. Her mother, Rachel Medina Ayala, was one of Brownsville Independent School District’s first female superintendents. Garza’s two sisters are also principals in the district.
So, in answer to your question:
What kind of incompetent principal reacts to trouble making elementary schoolers by calling the cops on them?
A nepotism hire with a vindictive streak.
Jesus Christ, I didn’t even know dynastic public school administrators was a thing…
The DA that’s refusing to drop charges shares the same last name.
This ain’t incompetence, this is a power trip. She also called CPS on a mother for questioning her special education needs program
Family of educators inspires women to follow dreams
Excuse me but what are those dreams exactly 🌚
Also, the interior of the photo in the second article looks posh, I wonder if it’s a school interior.
Also, the interior of the photo in the second article looks posh, I wonder if it’s a school interior.
I would guess it is Rachel Ayala’s dining room.
“So, when my daughters were young, all three of them, I would take them with me to school,” she said. “One of them would answer the phone, the other one would help me deliver textbooks, and the other one would help me do something else. So, they grew up there. … They’re just fantastic.”
Is this kinda… weird? I remember liking to help my dad out once in a while with simple tasks since I had to stay with him at work, but I don’t know how I’d feel about doing it every day.
I don’t know if I would say “weird”. I think it is unusual. Shouldn’t they have been going to class? Why was the principal in charge of delivering textbooks? How often do textbooks need to be delivered anyway?
The same that calls CPS on parents
Other parents have also complained to the outlet about the principal. One mother said that, after a meeting with Garza about her 5-year-old in which her own mom questioned the school’s special education plan for the boy, Garza called Child Protective Services on her.
Conservative ones. Conservatives should never be in a position of authority over others, especially children!
Garbage state.
And the liberals in the cities think texas is better than just about every other red state.
False. I’m a Liberal in a blue city and I think this state blows.
Most of us do, in fact.
Because you know them all right?
Obviously, Florida is better.
Florida is better and it’s sad Texan liberals can’t realize that.
It just goes to show how deluded they are.
Well thats just an entire chain of people that are so completely divorced from reality, common sense, and compassion, that humanity would only benefit from them being skimmed out of the gene pool.
People think Texas is the lone star state. The reality is that Texas is the one Star review state.
I mean, we have a lot of climate/agricultural diversity across the state as well as three cool, very progressive, large cities within a few hours of each other… I’d say it’s at least 2.5 stars
Is this your first experience with Texas?
This is the same detention center that had an employee who embezzled 1.2 million dollars worth of fajitas over the course of 9 years. He only got caught because he took the day off to go to a doctor’s appointment and a delivery of 800lbs of skirt steak showed up that no one else was expecting.
What I’m saying here is the Darrell B. Hester Juvenile Detention Center isn’t known for the fastidious oversight of its employees.
I’m not even mad. I’m impressed, that’s amazing.
The Fajita Bandit has become a bit of a local folk hero, partly because of how ridiculous the story is, and partly because (in retrospect) fajitas were more reasonably priced in Cameron County than they had any right to be.
What a hero. A modern day Robin Hood.
…. Wtf is some one gonna do with 800 pounds of fajita?
Sell it to local restaurants for less than the county paid for it.
One mother said that, after a meeting with Garza about her 5-year-old in which her own mom questioned the school’s special education plan for the boy, Garza called Child Protective Services on her.
Garza’s mom questioned it? Or the 5yr old’s? Or the mother of the 5yr old’s? Who is “her” referencing?
5-year-old, mom, and grandma showed up to the meeting with the principal. Grandma questioned the school’s special education plan. Principal called CPS on mom.
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You may want to reconsider your own reading comprehension.
One mother said that, after a meeting… in which her own mom questioned the school’s… [plans], Garza called Child Protective Services on her.
Who is her and her own mom?
It is not specified at all.
You also completely failed to address the question at hand. OP asked who the “her” in “her own mom” is referring to. Your modified sentence doesn’t even acknowledge the “her” in question.
Why are Texans so fragile
everything’s bigger in Texas!!1!
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Howdy Arabia is a police state hellscape. I cant wait for my parents to retire and move back up north so i never have to go back to that hellhole ever again.
Is there anything the Texas government ISN’T afraid of?
More guns. Apparently.
As long as the right people have them
This seems very strange, like it took place in a parallel universe or something.
America is a bit like a parallel universe
More like a whole parallel multiverse with how each state has its own set of quirks
Americans have truly lost their minds…
Only about half of us, but yeah.
Please send help.
