• 4am@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    Maybe it’s time we automate all the work away and realize that our individual existence doesn’t need to depend on our contributions to society (*based on availability, time of year, race, luck-of-birthplace, shareholder whims)

    If art is dead, it’s because it wasn’t readily manufacturable enough for capital. Most things aren’t. Why do we continue to let them rule everything? It’s clearly not working.

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      11 months ago

      …and as long as we’re dreaming, I’d like a pony.

      If it was possible to automate all jobs, capitalism would’ve done it by now. Robots are always cheaper than human workers.

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        If it was possible to automate all jobs, capitalism would’ve done it by now.

        Capitalism is the halfway point between Feudalism and Socialism, we’ve got another 4000 years on that social scale. Maybe don’t consider capitalism superman when it’s actively killing people.

        “If man was supposed to fly we’d be doing it by now!” - Some moron in the past.

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          Nowhere did I say automation of all jobs was a good thing. The fact that Midjourney is making people who do what they’re passionate about for a living obsolete is proof enough of that.

          My point was that if not even the most soulless, profit-driven bastards ever to walk planet earth can figure out how to save a buck by making a robot do jobs that we still underpay humans to do, it’s not because they haven’t tried, and it’s definitely not because they lack funding.

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            Haven’t yet. Time doesn’t end now. we didn’t have the car for 2.4 billion years before it was invented either.

            You’re literally complaining about them not doing what they’re doing because you aren’t happy with the results yet.

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              our individual existence doesn’t need to depend on our contributions to society (*based on availability, time of year, race, luck-of-birthplace, shareholder whims)

              Good job, Einstein! What are you going to do with that earth-shattering realization? Go up to Jeff Bezos and tell him he’s being mean?

              We can’t solve this shit in a day. I definitely don’t think it’ll happen in my lifetime and I’m not entirely convinced it can happen at all. Why are you going around saying “Why don’t we just automate all jobs” like it’s that easy?

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                “Why don’t we just automate all jobs” like it’s that easy?

                I’m not, I’m saying jobs will be automated as we can automate them, we have pocket calculators instead of people calculators which were as impossible to comprehend to ancient Egyptians as the general pace of progress seems to be to you. How are you so bad at extrapolating that concept? If you want the world to be fixed and perfect build a time machine. If you want the world to be better, wait a decade. If you want your life to be better, wait a day.

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        You’re making a mistake there. Robots aren’t always cheaper. It’s not like someone invents a new robot and suddenly it’s everywhere because “robots are always cheaper”. Robots are cheaper where they are being used, because they wouldn’t be used otherwise.New robots aren’t as much invented as made feasible by advances in manufacturing methods.