Also you CAN get your workplace to shift over to something else.
Not every workplace will change procedures, but some will. Especially if it’s software that handles local data or if there are high costs or privacy risks, they can be convinced.
You’re gonna get a whole team of people retrained with software they’re not used to, probably doesn’t have proper support or learning resources to fall back on, and may lack features or compatibility?
They might save some money, but a lot of businesses are more than happy to pay a lot to ensure they don’t have to worry about the above, and they can get on with their company’s actual purpose.
Well companies continue to get new software and learn new skills. They might not switch as soon as you suggest it, but it could get revisited later on when renewing a contract.
This also depends a lot on the size of the team and the work that’s being done. If required features are missing or there are compatibility issues, then that’s one thing. If people prefer the other product, or enough workers share similar views on the topic, then it’s easier to switch.
Again it doesn’t happen all the time, but it’s worth bringing up. If anything, it shows you’re thinking about how to improve your work and the business (financially, ethically). I’ve seen times when changes were made, and I’ve seen times when it wasn’t.
The support thing is a fair point, where companies would rather outsource risk than self host the thing. In that case it’s a matter of picking the most trustworthy company to outsource to. Best case scenario, the other company is doing things just as well as yours would have with the added benefit that they’re focussed on doing one thing well.
You’re gonna get a whole team of people retrained with software they’re not used to, probably doesn’t have proper support or learning resources to fall back on, and may lack features or compatibility?
Like the jump from Windows 10 to Windows 11? People move to unfamiliar software all the time, then complain about it for a bit and then cope.
I work in support, the amount of people I ask are you running windows 10 or 11 and don’t know the answer should be enough of an indicator that when they did upgrade, they barely noticed.
I work in support, the amount of people I ask are you running windows 10 or 11 and don’t know the answer should be enough of an indicator that when they did upgrade, they barely noticed.
Those people don’t know the product names. That’s it. Obviously they noticed that the core piece of GUI interaction moved from left-aligned to centered, just as they notice when after an update a giant search bar appeared on the middle of the desktop.
Yeah, but people who bring these things up act like everyone needs these things to get their day to day work done. Like everyone works in an architect office, industrial design firm or print marketing agency.
In the grand scheme of things the people who NEED to run Photoshop or CAD programs are edge cases.
The real reason people need windows for work is non-technical corporate and government IT departments. Windows management software (eg. Exchange) is too deeply embedded in the organisation and it is too time consuming and expensive to remove.
Is it that top of the line software truly doesn’t exist for linux, that it’s impossible to the work done, or is it possible BUT you have to spend more time tinkering and learning the quirks of quite admittedly rough around the edges open source software? That yes, it’s less efficient, but actually more rewarding knowing that the software you worked on was open source. And one you actually learn how to use open source software, nobody can take it away from you.
Look at unity! They gutted the program through its egregious licensing structure and now people are scrambling for alternatives. People that sticked with Godot didn’t have the same trouble. It was just another Wednesday
Of course open source can’t play on the same level as proprietary software right now. It doesn’t have the same money thrown at it than proprietary software! But the appeal of open source is that every change is guaranteed to benefit you, not some arbitrary bottom line. Proprietary software is polished, but you are at the whims of a big tech company.
If i were to base my profession on software, spend literal years of my life depending on code, i really would fucking like to look inside that shit sometimes. Anything else is like building a skyscraper out of quicksand
It’s great to use open source software. But once you need to use CAD for work, you’re gonna use the most efficient tool you can find no matter what OS it requires.
I hope you are kidding, trolling, as those things, plus audio/video editing, started fron unix when it wasn’t conceivable to do so on PCs with proprietary OS. All those corporations who later sold such sw copied/stole FOSS and dressed it up as their own.
No team or corporation can ever ever catch up to FOSS development. It is a neo-liberal fallacy that promotes them on marketing hype.
They’re right though. Top of the line software for certain domains (CAD, photoshop) just doesn’t exist for Linux. As much as I would want it to be.
Also you CAN get your workplace to shift over to something else.
Not every workplace will change procedures, but some will. Especially if it’s software that handles local data or if there are high costs or privacy risks, they can be convinced.
Can you tho?
You’re gonna get a whole team of people retrained with software they’re not used to, probably doesn’t have proper support or learning resources to fall back on, and may lack features or compatibility?
They might save some money, but a lot of businesses are more than happy to pay a lot to ensure they don’t have to worry about the above, and they can get on with their company’s actual purpose.
Well companies continue to get new software and learn new skills. They might not switch as soon as you suggest it, but it could get revisited later on when renewing a contract.
This also depends a lot on the size of the team and the work that’s being done. If required features are missing or there are compatibility issues, then that’s one thing. If people prefer the other product, or enough workers share similar views on the topic, then it’s easier to switch.
Again it doesn’t happen all the time, but it’s worth bringing up. If anything, it shows you’re thinking about how to improve your work and the business (financially, ethically). I’ve seen times when changes were made, and I’ve seen times when it wasn’t.
The support thing is a fair point, where companies would rather outsource risk than self host the thing. In that case it’s a matter of picking the most trustworthy company to outsource to. Best case scenario, the other company is doing things just as well as yours would have with the added benefit that they’re focussed on doing one thing well.
Like the jump from Windows 10 to Windows 11? People move to unfamiliar software all the time, then complain about it for a bit and then cope.
Windows 10 and 11 are the same product, just a new version…
They’re also extremely similar (damn near identical), and if you currently use windows 10 then eventually you’ll have no option but move to 11…
I work in support, the amount of people I ask are you running windows 10 or 11 and don’t know the answer should be enough of an indicator that when they did upgrade, they barely noticed.
Those people don’t know the product names. That’s it. Obviously they noticed that the core piece of GUI interaction moved from left-aligned to centered, just as they notice when after an update a giant search bar appeared on the middle of the desktop.
A new version that removed several features and changed others.
That is obviously wrong. Start menu and task bar changed a lot from Win7 to Win8, the from Win8 to Win10, and again from Win10 to Win11.
Yeah, but people who bring these things up act like everyone needs these things to get their day to day work done. Like everyone works in an architect office, industrial design firm or print marketing agency.
In the grand scheme of things the people who NEED to run Photoshop or CAD programs are edge cases.
The real reason people need windows for work is non-technical corporate and government IT departments. Windows management software (eg. Exchange) is too deeply embedded in the organisation and it is too time consuming and expensive to remove.
Is it that top of the line software truly doesn’t exist for linux, that it’s impossible to the work done, or is it possible BUT you have to spend more time tinkering and learning the quirks of quite admittedly rough around the edges open source software? That yes, it’s less efficient, but actually more rewarding knowing that the software you worked on was open source. And one you actually learn how to use open source software, nobody can take it away from you.
Look at unity! They gutted the program through its egregious licensing structure and now people are scrambling for alternatives. People that sticked with Godot didn’t have the same trouble. It was just another Wednesday
Of course open source can’t play on the same level as proprietary software right now. It doesn’t have the same money thrown at it than proprietary software! But the appeal of open source is that every change is guaranteed to benefit you, not some arbitrary bottom line. Proprietary software is polished, but you are at the whims of a big tech company.
If i were to base my profession on software, spend literal years of my life depending on code, i really would fucking like to look inside that shit sometimes. Anything else is like building a skyscraper out of quicksand
It’s great to use open source software. But once you need to use CAD for work, you’re gonna use the most efficient tool you can find no matter what OS it requires.
I hope you are kidding, trolling, as those things, plus audio/video editing, started fron unix when it wasn’t conceivable to do so on PCs with proprietary OS. All those corporations who later sold such sw copied/stole FOSS and dressed it up as their own.
No team or corporation can ever ever catch up to FOSS development. It is a neo-liberal fallacy that promotes them on marketing hype.
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