If so what kind of training they would have to go through ? By training I mean the spatial and situational awareness, combat skills (this is kinda unrealistic), enough knowledge to turn any situation to their advantage etc.
Just think of the person as your average joe who financially has nothing to spend on high tech gadgets or state of the art training equipment. And doesn’t even have any support from another human being. Basically one has to train from the ground up alone.
Don’t limit the answers to just James Bond and John wick, you can even consider any realistically possible superhero or supervillain (like batman or taskmaster) as well.
So what’s your take ?
I don’t think any secret agent could rival any of those fictional characters. They have incredible plot armor, depending on the scenario. James Bond is an idiot who fucks every woman who moves, even when he knows they’re there to trap him, but has a magic dick that hypnotizes them onto his side.
Batman with prep time is an unstoppable force who could take down every army in the world at once if he really needed to.
No, no human can compare to these characters.
I know a man whose dick is like heroin. Unfortunately he’s also completely immoral, so he’s fucked up a lot of women’s lives. Or rather, their brains. He’s fucked up their brains.
John Wick and James Bond and superheroes and supervillains are not realistically possible. Otherwise we would have them.
Bezos and Musk aren’t doing us any favors over here.
Are we in an action movie? In real life both of those gentlemen would die immediately. It’s extremely difficult to beat 2 people in a fair fight even for the best fighters, let alone more like in John Wick. James Bond is pretty much a meme for villains that make it really easy for him to escape.
In an action movie… Well, thinking like a writer I guess it would be a bit like the adult version of Home Alone.
In real life, I guess what’s the test? If it’s bodycount (and morality aside), see every mass shooting. If it’s taking down a major organisation from within, see whistleblowers like Edward Snowden. If it’s looking really cool see a fitness influencer or something.
it would be a bit like the adult version of Home Alone
Ah. So Skyfall then
Well they say its ten thousand hours of practice to master a skill right.
Assuming you already work 8 and sleep 8 travel and maintenance stuff for 2 that leaves you 6 houra a day to dedicate to one aspect of spy craft.
That would take roughly 4 and a half years.
So then you’re an expert in firearms
Now you need to learn hand to hand combat so again 10000 hours but you need to maintain currency with firearms so you only have 5 hours a day to practice now it’s nearly 5 and a half years to become an expert.
So we’re at 10 years to learn gun control and hand to hand combat.
Havent even touched on spatial awareness stuff along with driving flying jet ski riding and seduction.
Okay, so if you start in your early 20s, you might make it by the time you are in your 50s. We can also use some hours over the weekend. This sounds like a totally doable thing
It’s also way more doable if you quit your current job and find another career that will not only encourage training in these areas, but financially compensate you for it, too.
What are we waiting for??!?!
Now that would be an interesting movie. You have a guy who really loved action hero movies as a kid and spent his life honing those skills. Not because he really wants to kill anyone, but just because it’s fun. He spends his professional career as a mundane office worker until one day a group of terrorists take over his office building and plan on killing everyone inside. He has to fight his way through multiple floors of trained killers to get to the top so he can take down the chief bad guy, The Raid/Judge Dredd style. Realistically, he would definitely die within like 2 minutes from getting shot in the back of the head, but it’s still a fun setup for an “unlikely hero” action movie.
He’s a sysadmin and he doesn’t do downtime
No, no real human can become as capable as James Bond or John Wick even if they dedicate 24/7 to it.
Sorry I can’t talk about it
The closest equivalent I would think of are existing special forces of different militaries.
You first need the physical and mental ability to even be considered. From that, the military will then invest a lot in weapons, combat, and other training.
The closest outside of government training is maybe MMA, but that is only close combat. Even then, people dedicate their entire non-work time for years to get to that level.
I remember a video on youtube from a long time ago about an MMA fighter who got into a fight at a bar in, I think, Brazil. There were multiple guys with knives. Know what he did? He fucking booked it and still almost died. The reality is that the reason John Wick and James Bond win fights against multiple armed opponents is because the script demands it. In real life you would die almost instantly against greater numbers or armed opponents, regardless of how well trained you are or if you’re special forces or a secret agent. Because you don’t have plot armor.
I completely agree. Hell, this is why Bruce Lee carried a gun with him.
I was just looking at the closet real life equivalents. In reality, a person put in that position would likely be dead.
Then again, Gurkhas exist.
My favorite video was a martial artist explaining how to win in a knife fight. He gets into a fighting pose, the fight starts, and then he runs away as fast as he can. EDIT: It was a military guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvlrnc7hlQI
No, because those characters are fantastical. You can stay in great shape if that’s your priority and engage in martial arts and other fighty things, but they take a lot of time and dedication.
I remember something a friend said to me once. We were watching an action movie and during a well choreographed sequence I said something about wanting to be able to fight like that. My friend said, “sorry, you’ve only got one life”.
Nothing is impossible, but after a certain point in life, you’re simply unable to achieve that which would take a lifetime to master.
Their biggest strength, aside from fantasy physical strength, is years and years of experience in the field. You could train every aspect of it individually, in the end it’s all theory. It’s like every other job, only their jobs don’t exist, to the extend that they do it.
I’d say the closest that you could come to it is if you would join the French foreign legion or something.
Another factor that’s missing in the real world are the gadgets and impossible armors. Without that they wouldn’t survive this long.
Their biggest strength is the plot shield
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Not only that, but Bond has an entire agency and thousands of people supporting him and his activities. There really are things you can’t do yourself while in a heated situation that have to be done.
Not to mention technology that couldn’t possibly work in the real world. The Mythbusters have tested a few of his gadgets…
When you say “taskmaster,” I assume you don’t mean Greg Davies, right?
I meant the one from Marvel comics. White costume, and can copy any move that he sees.
You can train as much as you like, and have all the resources in the world, but until they invent real world plot armor, you would get wrecked by a stray bullet almost instantly. There are no realistically possible super heros.
Weird link, it goes to a Google Summer of Code post for me.
This is for a friend, right?
Just work out after work, train on the weekends, and you’ll be better than a majority of people. And isn’t that enough most of the time?
It would probably help if their full time job was already secret agent.
I always find the bit that takes me out of those characters is that they seem to speak, like, every language. I know polyglots exist, but the time it would take on top of the time all their other skills would take? Not only to learn, but to maintain fluency? There’s literally not enough hours in the day.
