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    German supermarkets are extremely cheap compared to countries around us. That’s one of the reasons Walmart I think it was failed so badly.

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      I have been to a Walmart in Germany back then, out of sheer curiosity. Let me tell you, it was definitely not just the price that was the problem. The whole shop screamed “We were to lazy to even think about German shoppers being different from American ones”.

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        A Costco moved in down the road from us (Australia ) and we signed up - have had a membership in the past at one much further away but thought we should give it another go.

        Won’t be renewing, we decided we just aren’t Costco people. It’s so inefficient and backwards and has that Americanness that just doesn’t suit us and I bet a lot of other Aussies.

        Sure it’s not dying off here, but I totally get what you mean.

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          If it makes you feel any better, Costco and Walmart also don’t work for a lot of Americans in the US who don’t like that inefficient way of shopping. You’re not alone.

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    Meanwhile, Germans still go out of their way to shop in Czech/Polish border towns. Although these days I guess that’s mostly for cigarettes, alcohol, cheap restaurant meals, and haircuts.

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    Even in Bavaria… isn’t stuff really expensive there? I’m from north Germany, it’s probably even cheaper where I live

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      Grocery store prices do not vary significantly across German federate states. The main part of cost of living differences comes from housing prices. Restaurant prices vary more than grocery store prices too.

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      Speaking as an Austrian, German groceries are absurdly cheap in north Germany and still cheaper in the south than in the surrounding countries. The store chains say that it’s because Germany is such a big market that they can offer anything cheaper.

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        It is also because of predatory business praxis. A typically thing for Aldi & co. to do is making good contracts with farmers, make them invest in an expansion, and then renegotiate the prices at a point the farmers are operate without any profit or even at loss. But since they have expanded, they can only deal with the supermarkets, who are able to buy these quantities.

        Probably we just pay the hidden price through farming subsidies.

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          Also lower safety, health + labor standards probably. Years ago I watched a french documentary where they had gone undercover in a large German slaughterhouse to explain the price difference with France. It was almost exclusively exploited migrant workers who were doing their work with appallingly low hygienic standards, which was then contrasted with a (more expensive) modern + much cleaner french slaughterhouse. I was not surprised when there was a string of scandals with German slaughterhouses during early covid. I will never buy German meat products, which is not much of a boycot, because I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen any for sale where I live.

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            Thanks for this. When I moved to France from Germany, basic meat (“Hackfleisch”) was almost twice the price there and it puzzled me how this is sustainable in an open market. I guess meat quality is not visible enough to the end customer for a market to equilibrate out such differences. Are the differences regulation driven?

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              It’s an open market, so countries can’t invent subjective regulation to block competing identical eu products from coming on their market. I’ve wondered how this price difference is sustained and I have no clear answer either.

              The only thing I could think off was that Belgians (I’m Belgian) and French people are very snobistic + chauvinistic about what we eat: origin is prominently displayed on meat and dairy, so it’s probable that enough consumers are willing to pay more for perceived better quality, so that the supermarket chains keep buying local. To sustain the believe of the population in the superior quality of our local products, problems that could threaten this believe must be taken seriously.

              In the Netherlands this is different: the dutch only care about the price, it’s no coincidence that the dutch invented the water chicken.

              A few years ago we had our latest scandal in a Belgian slaughterhouse (there’s been many over the years): it had a bad reputation, some people went undercover and made footage (it was no where near as bad as a German slaughterhouse, but still …, could have been a lot better), the footage was published, public outrage followed, inspections followed, the slaughterhouse was temporally shut down, business was lost, expansion plans scrapped, responsibles were prosecuted and ultimately received a slap on the wrist fine.

              So slaughterhouses in Belgium do have problems, but scandals have consequences that the slaughterhouse management really wants to avoid, and that’s why I believe that my chauvinistic belief in the superiority of Belgian/french products is warranted. 😁

              Edit: the slaughterhouse scandal that I mentioned was about ill treatment of animals, not for hygienic reasons. About 8 years ago there was a case of a slaughterhouse failing inspections repeatedly over a 2 year period and they were shut down after failing to make improvements. The inspection takes hygienic and qc issues very seriously, but seems to have higher tolerance for animal cruelty than the general population.

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        Yeah we have a grocery delivery business here in the Netherlands that has really low prices and I’ve heard it’s because they ship in a lot of the food directly from Germany. Kind of insane to me that it’s cheaper to cart in food from another country than it is to just get it here.

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        No, not really. The problem isn’t that he’s wrong. He just basically did this out of nowhere, without any reason or any conclusion. He basically did “Hello everyone, just wanted to let you know that you’re fucked, have a nice day, good bye.”

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          But he’s honest, that’s the best to be as a politician and also rare.