• Zagorath@aussie.zone
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    What’s with the black rectangle in the corner? Did someone decide to deliberately cut off the artist’s credit?

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      Probably, that’s the conclusion I came to also. Or maybe the original was for the company that made the template and they didn’t want to make people think that company made it made the meme? Idk.

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      My guess is Tiktok, since they put a watermark about that size in the bottom right.

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    TBH: Hamas knows that bombing a school doesn’t look good. Thats why they build their operation centers under schools.

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      If the only solution I could think of to a problem was to bomb a school I would simply ask someone else to come up with better ideas.

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          ceasefire begin talks with the other Palestinian government that isnt Hamas

          You can take the power away from Hamas by taking away palestinian people’s reason to be angry. But as it stands, Hamas is literally the Gazan government.

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          Genuine question - What would be the realistic solution?

          I’m by no means absolving Israel. The voices of their government alone show that they don’t even try to prevent civilian casualties. But of the top of my head I don’t exactly see a solution. For example putting a foot on the ground would provoke their neighbors. They can’t just ignore them either.

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            Israel funded Hamas and their policies basically created them. They’re an easier target for westernes than the secular PLO. Maybe the solution is ending apartheid and the illegal occupation? Maybe, and I know this is really crazy but, bombing the shit out of a group of people isn’t going to lead to less retaliation?

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              The PLO wanted to remove Israel from existence for most of the time it was in power, it’s not like they were saints either.

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              And maybe Hamas will agree to a ceasfire, stop fighting, give up power, and agree to end the apartheid system? Hmm, no they would not.

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                Hamas has asked for a ceasefire many times. Also why would they not agree to end the apartheid system? The only reason I could think of would be so they could garner more hate towards Israel. Hmm, but doesn’t that mean that it would be in Israel interest to end it to weaken Hamas?

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                  So that they can regroup and attack again. They’ve said this on record.

                  Because power. They have control and things are the way they like it.

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            “putting a foot on the ground”

            You mean a ground invasion? Which they’ve already started. The bombing is just to minimise Israeli casualities.

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            Mate, they’ve tanks circling Gaza city the ships sailed for provoking neighbours and they’ve already provoked Jordan by bombing ambulances, aid convoys, hospitals and schools.

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            A one state solution that results in the dissolution of the state of Israel entirely and the creation of a new state where Arabs aren’t held as second class citizens, where both groups live under the same laws and are prosecuted in the same Justice system.

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          Fucking awesome. I’m a fucking nazi and I love killing children. All I need to do is say a terrorist (lol everyone who opposes me is a terrorist btw I’m a nazi, remember?) is hiding there and I can kill like 20 at a time. And the best part is I NEVER EVER HAVE TO SHOW EVIDENCE. The western media just repeats my press releases!

          It works on hospitals. It works on refugee camps. It works when I target individual ambulances!

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          lol you are really so dishonest to say that the only choice is to bomb a bunch of children and civilians or do nothing at all.

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      Yeah its well known by everyone that they hide where they have human shields, this doesn’t make it ok to just ignore the civilians but it explains the high casualtys to a certain extent…

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          No it isn’t and Israel specifically didn’t sign the Geneva convention.

          Arguable. You do know bombings were happening before Israel was a thing right?

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          Yeah i don’t like how Israel deals with it as well, but i also don’t see another option, Palestinians kicking Hamas out won’t happen and Hamas has already proven they make people stay with force.

          And the settler thing is also not exactly a good thing.

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      True but two wronges don’t make a right. It is still wrong to bomb that school

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        So if someone attacks you and threatens to eradicate everyone in your country and has their rocket launchers on top of hospitals, hides their fighter in refugee camps, and has their operation offices under schools, what do you do:

        1. Nothing

        2. Tell all civilians to leave and bomb schools, hospitals and refugee camps.

        The main problem is Hamas using Palestinians as shields. There is almost 0 uproar against Hamas in here. But its their fault Palestinians are dying.

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          There is plenty of uproar about Hamas everywhere.

          The difference being that Hamas is a terrorist organization who has no ties to our allies. Israel, one of our biggest allies in the middle east, is the one who should be held to a higher standard and should know better than to carpet bomb half the place to kill 10x+ civilians than terrorists.

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      Well, this claim has been made by Israel, too, as if to say the tunnels are all underneath hospitals. But they showed a quickly made 3D rendering, not proof.

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    i had this crazy idea that instead of bombing gaza and killing civilians they could have just worked with the gazans to respect their space, grant them rights in israel, not cut off food water and power, and work together to help everyone live together against radical elements.

    but what do i know

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      Oh fugg off with this whataboutism. No shit fuck Hamas. I don’t know anyone who actually support them except fringe, terminally online leftists. As Palestinian civilians (read: children) die people decry and ask dO yOu ConDemN HaMas?! I watched a video after one of the, bombings by israel, of people transported injured on a mattress. One of the individuals was a child with their head blown open. A fucking child.

      Do you condemn Israel?!? Do you condemn Israel??? Do you condemn Israel???

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          If this was America people would be going so hard against Israel. But of course they need to “defend” themselves from the Palestinian children. They have to bomb hospitals, ambulances, refugee camps, schools, and murder journalists.

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      White Americans: WE STOLE THIS LAND 400 YEARS AGO, GET OVER IT!

      Also White Americans: ISRAEL BELONGED TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE 2000+ YEARS AGO, THEY DESERVE IT NOW!

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      Why is does that gets down voted? Every Time someone says: “Hey Hamas is also doing atrocious things, lets blame both!” People get so ridiculously pissed off. And I have no Idea why.

      But I’m with you on this one! Fuck Hamas. They are Terrorist and the civilians of Palestine deserve so much more then these bastards.

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        Yeah Fuck the Warsaw uprising. There’s no Reason to ever rise up against your oppressors. They should be content to go through the legal process to change things. Israel has never committed actions that make peaceful protest impossible, like shooting over 3000 Palestinians who were in a peaceful dance off at the edge of their concentration camp. I mean, Israel is only going after Hamas, it’s not like they’ve been systematically bombing the West Bank, where there is no Hamas presence. They’re only going after the leadership, which is why they’re bombing Lebanon, not Gaza, because as we all know, none of Hamas leadership resides in Gaza.

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      Taliban, Hamas, ISIS, MAGA, Zionism I think we can all agree are bad and shouldn’t be engaged or listened to or donated to.

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      And as per the recent interviews it’s intentional, “we need the blood of Palestinian children” or however these sick fucks put it.

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      Calling a hospital a fortress? Oh come on. They killed like 60 Hamas operatives and how many civlians? Children?

      “Defend” you say while Palestinian blood stains the street. If this was the US people would be singing a different tune.

    • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      sorry they didn’t plan out the landlocked territory surrounded by water and israeli which is the size of a tiny city before being oppressed for decades

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    You know what? You all can bitch and moan all you want. Israel is going to crush them.

    And there is nothing you plebs can do about it. So y’all better start dealing with this and get some strong copeium.

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      You’re right, I can’t do much. But to say nothing we do matters is contrary to the evidence we have. Biden has gone from full throated support of Israel, to calling for a humanitarian pause, to warning them that their actions are dissolving support for them around the globe. A majority of Americans support a cease-fire, and that’s bipartisan support, republicans and democrats. The pressure is working, and no one should let up until the genocide is halted.

      But suppose I concede that nothing I do will change anything, even collectively. All that means is that we’re set for WWIII. The Middle East is not going to watch the genocide of 2 million people happen without themselves retaliating. So, it’s either, we convince Israel to stop peacefully, or we risk the safety and security of the entire planet because some ethno-nationalists decided this was the perfect excuse to enact their Final Solution and we decided to fund it without any questions.

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        Israel is always begging for us to support them, their vile terrorist unhinged actions will make that argument super hard next round. Dems will control the Senate, House, and POTUS and they will not want to have dead kids all over their signatures and families from Israeli actions. They did this to themselves, they could have gone after Hamas instead of kids.