“Human animals must be treated as such. There will be no electricity and no water [in Gaza], there will only be destruction. You wanted hell, you will get hell.”
- Major General Ghassan Alian, head of Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (COGAT).
How far the Israeli government has come, from being the oppressed to the oppressor, from the murdered to the murderer.
Ironic doesn’t seem to be the correct word.
Pretty crazy what religion will do.
I’m an atheist, and although I detest organized religions, I don’t think this is religion. This is about control and power, fascism. Religion is a tool and a red herring.
While I don’t disagree with what you’re saying, religion is being used as a weapon the same way racism is used. Take groups who already don’t align because of prejudice, and light the fire. So while the people pulling strings may have a more sinister agenda, the people who are actually involved on the ground are seriously doing this because of religion, racism, and a long long history of taking an eye for an eye.
This happens all over the world for various reasons. “Don’t let the baddies get in! Those people stole your land! Vote for me! Buy my product! Worship this god! Freedom!”
This is true. Most religions avow peace. The followers seem to not acknowledge that.
Most religions avow peace.
I’m sorry, what? Nah son
I’d say it’s both.
In this case no, religion is the cause. Pretty much anywhere else you would be correct.
Seems I am incorrect, according to Ilan Pappe,
There were many factors that contributed to the success of Zionism and the international support enjoyed by the newly formed Zionist state. The Holocaust, and in particular Western guilt, Islamophobia, capitalist and industrialist interests, and American support, all played their role. But these were factors that sustained and protected the project rather than facilitating its very inception. The alliance between Evangelical Christians, on both sides of the Atlantic, the British ruling classes (and in particular the Anglo Jewish leadership and aristocracy) was there to enable the inception of the Zionization of Palestine.
Bingo. Israel legit only exists because in Christianity the end days cannot come if Israel does not exist, so allied powers said fuck it let’s give it a little shove and both create Israel and give it to Jews.
Palestinians have multiple religions (around five if you count Samaritans and the polytheistic Arab traditions still followed in the Arabian Desert in southern Palestine). The European Jews even hurt Palestinian Jews until they started identifying as Israelis. They even stole children from the Middle Eastern Jews saying they can breed more later.
To still say this is a matter of religion is absolutely crazy when you consider facts. This is only considered religious by European populations as 1500 years of Christianity led them to believe all Jews come from a single race but don’t do this for other religions.
It can be both bud. Saying it’s not religious when it’s quite literally drawn by ethnoreligious lines it’s just objectively wrong.
Sure there’s a heirarchy but that doesn’t negate the fact that 98% of conflict in the middle East comes from religion and the other 2% is like petrodollar fueds.
Similarly you can in fact be racially Jewish in as well as religiously Jewish, or both.
Exactly, “ethnic” Jews ( who can be of any religions or atheists) are part of this situation . It’s not like Christian Palestinians have not faced hardships. People here are quick to say Israeli Muslims have rights as citizens, so this is not about Jews vs Muslims but Israelis (regardless of religiousness) vs Palestinians.
The biggest **religious **claim here is that all Jews descend from a Levantine tribe thousands of years ago.
yeah look what religion did in the ukraine russia war.
Not a thing, because not all wars are fueled by religion. Some are.
it was sarcasm. these wars are about power and territory, first. The religion aspect makes it easier to rile people up, but afaik before the settlers arrived the entire area was religiously diverse. I’d even argue racism is a larger factor here than the religious aspect.
/s is important
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How the fuck do you construe criticizing Israel being an attack on Israeli Jews. What you just said just proves the point that Israel != Jews.
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The Israeli government routinely tried to portray itself as a place Holocaust survivors fled to when in reality most did not because running from fascism to fascism isn’t an upward move.
Seems a rather endemic attitude across the Israeli government these days: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/israel-defense-minister-human-animals-gaza-palestine_n_6524220ae4b09f4b8d412e0a
Israeli also claims to be a Jewish state. There’s multiple members of the gov’t making public statements on behalf of the state.
In case I need to spell it out, I’m aiming at the Israeli gov’t.
Don’t bother him with facts, he has a narrative to support
That poor child, what did he do to keep getting killed over and over again?
He knows what he did.
Life pro tip: don’t be born in Palestine.
Is this before or after the war started?
Very disgusting to see.
They should’ve got Instagram.
Victim of circumstances. Wrong place at the wrong time. Multiple times.
those are rookie numbers we gotta pump those up
Not the time, dude.
When people say it’s not the time, it’s especially the time.
Does this include the 500 from the hospital parking lot?
It was 5 million babies you dummy
Try 5 gigamillions
Vaush goes over this in his video, although I don’t know where he got his information. I’m guessing his government handlers.
Read the article to find out.
This is sad, but the trauma is on both sides of the border.
It’s easy to flaunt bodycounts as Israel is defending itself using Iron Dome to avoid most potential damage. Remember Hamas has lit the fuse on all of this on their October 7th attack. Hamas terrorists are hiding and acting from underneath hospitals and schools . Hamas has fired 7000 rockets towards Israeli cities on the first two weeks of the war and is continuing to do so still. At Israeli cities. Also, Hamas terrorists intentionally group their launches to make it difficult for iron dome to intercept large numbers of rockets fired simultaneously.
Just stop. This talking point is 3 weeks old. It’s hollow and insincere. You don’t get to murder civilians 4 times over and claim morality. Just stop.
It is neither hollow nor insincere.
Hamas attacked Israel civilians because they hate Israel. They don’t give a flying fuck about the Palestinians you are touting they do this for. If they would actually care for them, they wouldn’t dress like civilians, wouldn’t put their launch sites in or near civilian buildings AND would share their massive resources with the civilian population.
I know that you and your club, Tokenboomer, don’t care about a single word I said.
This comment isn’t for you.
The hatred for Hamas has blinded you to the fact that innocent people; civilians, children, mothers and elderly are dying at the hands of Israeli military.
Obviously what Hamas does is terrible but the fact that Israel is doing the same shit as a terrorist organisation while causing magnitudes more death and suffering which will also create more support for Hamas in Palestine is quite telling.
They don’t give a flying fuck about the Palestinians
Bro, Israelis come online and exclaim their feelings about Palestinians, go to any mildly zionist corner of the internet and they will gladly tell you how little they value Palestinian life and want them gone.
The people being killed aren’t associated with Hamas. How is Israel any better than a terrorist state? Please tell me how you can defend a country that allowed aide to be brought in to the Gaza strip, only to immediately bomb the bakery it was sent to. They’re fucking vile and shame on Biden for not calling out these atrocious war crimes.
Indiscriminate bombardment of civilians is NEVER “defending”… it’s just mass murder and terrorism. That is never acceptable under any circumstance.
It’s perfectly acceptable to the west as long as Israel is the one doing it.
There is no indiscriminate bombing of civilians. If there was indiscriminate bombing of civilians, the Gaza Strip would be gone already - several times over. They could have carpet bombed the whole area and then destroyed the Hamas tunnels with bunker buster bombs.
The ONLY party that gains something from dead civilians is Hamas.
The idea that the bombing is not indiscriminate because they haven’t levelled the whole area is wild to me. You could even drop a single bomb indiscriminately.
Care to estimate the percentage of Palestinian casualties that were actually members of Hamas? This is what gives the hint about whether it’s really indiscriminate bombing.
So just to be clear, this isn’t carpet bombing?
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Netty seems to be gaining quite a bit from all those dead civilians.
Remember Hamas has lit the fuse on all of this on their October 7th attack.
Israel lit the fuse on this in 1949.
England.
As usual, all this misery can be traced back to those turd burglars.
Christian Zionism originated in England at least two decades before anything resembling Jewish Zionism appeared. So yeah… I guess England does deserve a lot of blame for this. But they are not the ones stuffing the kapo state with hundreds of billions in mass-murder money.
killing kids with guns is bad but killing them with missiles is good. The israeli government is a cesspool of moral bankruptcy.
