• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    And more bleating about justifications and morals since that’s all you know. I frankly don’t give a shit about any of that. There are practical concrete steps that can be taken to avoid a nuclear holocaust, and these steps are at odds with your ideological position.

    The whole idea that the westerners are driving the world towards nuclear holocaust is a basic fact of reality. NATO expansion east is the root cause of the conflict in Ukraine. NATO support for Ukraine is the root cause of the war continuing. Western imbeciles who continue to deny these basic facts are directly responsible for driving us towards the brink. You are personally responsible for this.

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        2 years ago

        That’s just more bloviating. The way to ensure nobody launches nuclear weapons is to avoid creating tensions that can lead to launch of nuclear weapons. Whom idiots are going to blame once the weapons are launched and we’re all dying is irrelevant.

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            2 years ago

            More moralizing. It absolutely does not matter who launches the nukes first, everybody is going to die exactly the same way including imbeciles who will feel morally superior dying.

            It is the duty of all countries to avoid situations that can lead to use of nuclear weapons by any country. Everyone participating in escalations of tensions is equally responsible for the result.

            Russia is indeed not threatening to use nuclear weapons, but it’s also clear that escalating tensions could lead to use of nuclear weapons. This isn’t some paradox. There were plenty of situations during the cold war when a nuclear disaster nearly happened by accident. I guess an utter ignoramus would not be aware of that.

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                2 years ago

                This isn’t fear mongering. Even Biden himself recently said that we’re closet to a nuclear holocaust since the Cuban missile crisis. Only an absolute idiot would continue to insist that the danger is imagined.

                Again, what you consider acceptable plays no role in Russia or US deciding whether they will use nuclear weapons or not. Creating a situation where such weapons could be used must be avoided at all costs. The fact that someone cannot comprehend this illustrates phenomenal levels of idiocy.

                The tension we are talking about here is increased escalation of hostilities between the west and Russia. While your myopic view only sees Russia using nuclear weapons, it’s entirely possible that the west will as well in their desperation. US used nuclear weapons in Japan, and considered using tactical nukes both in Korea and Vietnam. This is well documented. Should NATO choose to become directly engaged then this becomes a possibility.

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                    2 years ago

                    Reporting this with Rule 2. No need to go to personal insults.

                    I’m stating a plain fact here. If you admit being in that group of people that’s you admitting to idiocy as opposed to me calling you one. Since you’re reporting that’s an admission of the fact.

                    West using nuclear weapons is not probable

                    You have absolutely no idea what is or isn’t probable. Everything you believe is based on the propaganda you guzzle. Everything that’s been happening with the war on the ground and the economic war has been at odds with what you thought would happen, yet here you are confidently convinced nuclear war won’t happen because you don’t think it’s reasonable.