What do y’all think of this? Seems pretty terrible on its face

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    2 years ago

    Same argument to be used to lock up anyone who’s ever contributed to a torrenting app or to the protocol itself.

    Whatever your opinion on crypto, taking it down might have some acceptable reasoning behind, but going as far as to arrest the developer is extremely concerning.

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      2 years ago

      No because copying a file is not a real crime. Don’t mix apples with oranges.

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        2 years ago

        What are you even talking about? It’s 100 percent a question of perspective because as I hope you know, this argument is used constantly (copying files is or should be illegal).

        The fact that you consider it to be a “real crime” should be more than enough for you to realise it’s a ridiculous position.

        Personally, I don’t consider keeping your financial transactions secrets to be a real crime, regardless of what method you’re using. Now what?

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          2 years ago

          No, but enabling the financial transactions of drug cartels and dictatorships like North Korea is what we are talking about here, not your petty play money in crypto cash.

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              2 years ago

              Did you even read the original article? None of that is relevant and comparing it is ridiculous.

              This is very explicitly about North Korea (and others) running their ransomware operations at a profit through tornado cash. Of course this isn’t going to fund their nuclear program, but it is still really shit and criminal and effects real people. And the guy you made tornado cash enabled that, and likely (indirectly) profited from it as well. That is not a poor innocent person that can play the victim card here.

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                2 years ago

                @poVoq

                This is very explicitly about North Korea (and others) running their ransomware operations at a profit through tornado cash.

                I fail to understand how different that is from the examples cited by @SineNomineAnonymous . They are charged with "hav[ing] failed to address their use as illegal money laundering services. ". Did @torproject manage to address their use as a child porn sharing service?

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                  There is a significant difference between enabling cash flows and enabling the exchange of jpgs (only). If Tor had a payment service included that was developed for and used 99% to enable paying for CP, it would be also justified to charge the developers of that payment gateway for aiding in the creation of CP.