• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    This is not accurate. It was in the news report today that the casualties are around 30 soldiers per day. Or… did you count all the civilians to your numbers because you used the word “people”?

    News reports clearly state that Ukraine is losing at least 200 soldiers every day. This is what Ukraine themselves says. This doesn’t include other casualties which result in additional troops being taken out of combat. If you’re going to lie, at least try to find something that can’t be googled in a couple of seconds.

    You are again claiming that geopolitics isn’t about trust, which is false.

    Diplomacy can never be based on trust. If you really don’t understand why then I don’t know what else to tell you.

    And how is that a compromise where bending the knee is the only options east provides?

    That’s the option that the west has been providing for the past 30 years. Now you get to reap what you sowed. The west does not have the strength to challenge Russia. This means that the west has no hope to challenge China which has a far bigger industrial base. Either the west learns how to talk to countries it doesn’t like and to find compromises or it will bend the knee. You can keep screeching here all you like, but that won’t change the facts.

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        2 years ago

        Ah yes, because Zelensky has a long track record of telling it like it is. Just thinking here how gullible somebody has to be to believe that Ukraine went from losing hundreds of people a day to only 30 because 12 HIMARS have been shipped there. I’ll trust what US officials have to say on this one https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-taking-hundreds-casualties-daily-ukraine-war-us-official-2022-07-22/

        Diplomacy can never be based on geopolitics that happens without any trust. It doesn’t make any sense.

        The only thing that doesn’t make sense is claiming that geopolitics can be based on trust. Countries that are adversaries inherently can’t trust each other. What you do is try to figure out the goals of your competitors, and find ways to find a compromise between their goals and your own.

        Bending the knee is the last option available. Things have already gone too far for that to be possible. People are not gonna tolerate it.

        And what are they going to do exactly. The west can’t match Russia in terms of military industrial production. Europe has no food and no fuel right now. If you seriously think that people are gonna tolerate starving and freezing to death to show off Russia, then what else is there to tell you.

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            Ukranian casualities are classified by the goverment, as well as the location of mobilized solder during his first 90 days of duty. That’s gives an possibility to the govement say literally any numbers of casualities.

            There are indirect pointers of heavy casualities: introduced military duty on women, introduced mobilisation of infected with tuberculosis (non-officially), hard to leave the country by men, catch civilian attempts to mobilize on streets etc.

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            So you pasted a link that quotes an Ukrainian policitian about casualties, but then you don’t believe what Zelensky is saying?

            Correct, Zelensky is known to lie constantly and he needs to keep up the narrative that things are going well in order to maintain support at home and from simpletons in the west. The official was admitting realistic numbers that every western intelligence agency agrees on. The second link I gave you is from yesterday. US intelligence officials directly contradict the absurd claim form Zelensky you linked.

            Your opinion is uninformed and irrelevant. Sooner than later you will have to start adapting your views to the reality of the world.

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                2 years ago

                I’ve already answered your question in my previous comment. You can keep believing whatever you want to believe, there is no point trying to convince you that the sky is in fact blue and that water is wet. Enjoy wallowing in your delusions while you can.

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                    You claimed Ukraine is losing 200-300 troops per day according to US sources, quoting Ukraine from beginning of June

                    This figure has been accepted by pretty much all western agencies. Nothing changed since June and now.

                    I provide a link from today that reports Ukraine saying the amount is currently around 30 per day

                    You provided a statement from Zelensky, who has a long track record of lying, claiming that Ukrainian casualties magically reduced by an order of magnitude.

                    You say my sources are wrong and you trust what US sources say, quoting statistics from June.

                    Not only that, but I even explained why your source is not trustworthy.

                    Again, I don’t need to convince you of anything. Reality has a way of asserting itself regardless of what you manage to convince yourself of. You keep on enjoying living in your fantasy world while you can.