• AnOrdinaryDog@lemmy.ml
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    Here’s a few: -Sections of the CIA under the direction of CIA director Alan Dulles conspired to assassinate JFK and cover up the plot. Lee Harvey Oswald was a patsy.

    • Julian Assange has been persecuted for several years and spent years in solitary confinement with the use of fabricated and trumped up charges in order to punish him for wikileaks and terrorise others who would think of doing something similar, and to create a chilling effect on journalists. The CIA also plotted to assassinate him, but the plot was not carried out.
    • Major oil companies including Exxon have well known since at least the 1970’s how devastating climate change is and will be, and have used their advanced knowledge to devise a long-running propaganda campaign to deny and obfuscate the risks, while shaping politics to avoid any action on climate that would threaten their business model.
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      Are the second and third bullets actually theory though? Well, maybe the assassination plan in the second bullet is theory.

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    Please remember to follow lemmy’s and this community’s rules while discussing sensitive topics like this, I suppose many theories could offend someone but no holocaust denial etc, thanks

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    I will start with the big one which is 9/11. Obviously there is a lot of speculation about who did it and why, but I will just mention one basic fact.

    To start with, the first plane crashed into the world trade center at 8:46 am. The fourth plane crashed near the capital city at 10:03 am, over an hour later. One such attack should be enough to put all air defenses at maximum alert, and scramble interceptors. These systems are designed to intercept stealth aircraft and ballistic missiles, so they wont have any problem to track and destroy civilian airliners. Instead it seems that the military was completely asleep. There is simply no explanation for that, except so-called “conspiracy theories”.

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      I heard a story from a professor who used to be a contractor for the US Department of Defense, he was at the pentagon talking and walking with his boss when he followed his boss into a room where he didn’t have the clearance to be. It was an accident, and nothing came of it, but he said he saw a drone operator eating a poptart while surveying somewhere.

      That image has always kinda stuck with me. We like to think of our institutions, governments, and militaries as exact infallible machines, but at the end of the day everything is run by regular people eating poptarts.

      So, anytime I think “there’s no way a system could be that incompetent” I remember that everything is run by regular mistake-making people who are eating poptarts.

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    I believe that conspirators push outlandish conspiracies to distract from real ones, and make level-headed people look down on conspiracy theorizing. For example, Alex Jones could be CIA.

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    • DuckDuckGo is a honey pot produced by G**gle for privacy kiddies.
    • USA authority can decrypt T*r network by military technology going more than 50 years ahead of civil.
    • L*mmy devs made le**y to brainwash Americans into killing capitalism.
    • G*d is dead.
    • I’ll get miracle p*wer after 666 downvotes.
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      L*mmy devs made le**y to brainwash Americans into killing capitalism.

      This one is true

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          What?

          What about the conspiracy to commit a military coup in Chile in the 1970’s and install a right-wing dictatorship to suppress the left?

          What about the conspiracy to fabricate a cassus belli against Iraq in 2001- 2003 to invade the country under the pretext of a menace of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction?

          What about mass surveillance via the internet?

          What about the holocaust?

          There are obviously true conspiracy theories, many are widely believed by the left and many are even public record at this point.

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            What about the conspiracy to commit a military coup in Chile in the 1970’s and install a right-wing dictatorship to suppress the left?

            not a conspiracy theory, it’s simply true

            What about the conspiracy to fabricate a cassus belli against Iraq in 2001- 2003 to invade the country under the pretext of a menace of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction?

            not a conspiracy theory, it’s simply true

            What about mass surveillance via the internet?

            not a conspiracy theory, it’s simply true

            What about the holocaust?

            not a conspiracy theory, it’s simply true

            reported and blocked

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              These are all simply true… NOW, I think is the point he was making, but they did start as theories (Except the holocaust part, not sure what he was getting at there)

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                The holocaust was a secret, it was a huge conspiracy among the German elite to carry out mass-executions of jews and others in the camps, a theory about which managed to circulate among the German population and elsewhere, but was doubted and contested. Until suddenly, allied armies liberated the camps and revealed to the world what was happening in them.

                So it existed first as conspiracy and conspiracy-theory, before suddenly becoming a matter of public record.

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              Thank you for the report, unless I am misunderstanding he is saying these “theories” are the truth, given the context. Could have been worded better, but in this part

              There are obviously true conspiracy theories, many are widely believed by the left and many are even public record at this point.

              I think he is saying these are true even if some people call them theories. I interpret the thread as

              Only right wingers believe in conspiracy theories?

              yes

              I disagree, I believe all these to be true