Sure, kill the people with the expertise to learn from failure. That’ll make the next launch go fuckin great!
Putin has this sick idea that if ppl are scared enough they will do better.
While at the same time probably furious people are lying to him left and right ruining his war efforts, and wondering why throwing people out of windows isn’t helping.
Worked at a company like that once, the boss was just like Putin. Anyone disagreed or didn’t want to work a holiday then they suddenly found their employment terminated. Such fragile egos on these types.
Turns out there’s an extreme amount of psychological overlap between authoritarianism, narcissism, and “toxic masculinity”.
I never thought leopards would eat MY face!
Especially since no one with two working neurons will want to take the position.
As someone from East EU, this is actually plausibly accidental, though the timeline is suspicious.
Mushroom foraging is cultural, you can buy foraged mushrooms in farmers markets and in general it is a fairly popular leisure activity to go foraging in the woods.
I hardly know anyone over 50 who isn’t excited for the mushroom season, sometimes people do end up picking up a death cap as it can be mistaken for a couple different edible ones at its various stages of growth, though you have to be fairly inattentive to do so. That said we treat a couple of poisonings a year in our toxicoligy ward.
Some friends of mine were hosting an East EU exchange student and were excited to take her “mushroom hunting” as we are in a place where chanterelles can be found if you look hard. She couldn’t get over the phrasing, every time someone said it she would cackle and go “mushroom hunting!! BANG BANG!!!” while making finger guns.
At leadt in my language, hunting is not generally used in other contexts, so I can see why someone wouldfind it funny, maybe.
Also, chanterelles are an absolute staple, probably the most common one. Others are russula and boletes (this one being the favourite for people generally). Some others commonly picket are milkcaps and parasols (personally their resemblance to deathcaps makes me uneasy).
Deathcaps could be confused for Rusulas, some milkcaps and parasols.
How many of those die due to eating the mushrooms?
Holy shit. Jokes aside, if this is real it’s a damn shame. It’s actually insane that he would get killed for a scientific experiment. Why would anyone want to be involved in science in Russia if this is how they deal with failure? It’s no small feat to land on the fucking moon.
Killed for failing a very propagandized mission doing stuff that was mostly routine back in the Soviet era.
It’s not about the failure. It’s about the embarrassment
And this right here is why this war has literally made russia a dumber nation because of the “brain drain.” So many of russia’s scientists and intellectuals fled when they invaded Ukraine. Looking at this and all the russian doctors/covid scientists who ‘fell’ to their deaths from windows, it seems putin is determined to make russia a stupid nation.
Don’t forget all the intellectuals and educators and researchers, etc that couldn’t leave have likely been drafted or are damn close to it.
Killing him because their shit crashed into the moon. Putin is depraved.
While it very much tracks for assassination, it also seems to be a cultural thing to eat random mushrooms they find.
I have several Russian and Ukrainian friends in the states, and they always act like they’re seriously considering harvesting mushrooms we find in the wild and eating them. Every damn time, and it’s like a 2 minute conversation every time of me convincing them it’d be foolish and to just buy from the store.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was real. But I’ll just assume Putin anyway.
Wait, there’s noone collecting mushrooms there? It’s not random stuff of course, it’s species they know. And there’s a good chance you won’t find those is the shop.
No, relatively very few people in the US collect mushrooms.
Also, the “it’s species they know” thing is often exactly the problem: there are species on one continent that look exactly like a species on another continent, but one of them is edible and the other is deadly. So some poor dumb bastard comes over here from Europe, sees some mushroom he “knows,” eats it, and then – whoops! – dead.
If you want to forage for mushrooms you need to find a local guide to teach you, and even then you’re putting your life in their hands so you’d better be damn sure they’re a good one.
I grew up collecting mushrooms (US), but definitely restricted to only a few varieties which basically couldn’t be confused with anything deadly (some lookalikes maybe, but gastrointestinal distress — not death — would probably be the worst case). And yep, learned by going on mushroom hunting walks through the woods with local old timers who knew what was what.
“Relatively few people” may be the standard for your part of the US but in my experience PA, MD, VA all have mushroom hunting as very normal and popular activities.
So I was going down a mushroom rabbit hole one day and found a Polish documentary that was very detailed regarding mushrooms. Apparently selling wild mushrooms on the side of the road is a billion dollar industry in Poland, as well as a seasonal cultural event.
But this is just an assassination over the botched moon landing. When you fuck up publicly in Russia, you die publicly.
It’s not just east Europe some people in western Europe at the very least in Italy do so as well.
Risotto with wild mushrooms is about a million times tastier than with Portobello type.
Sure but you can also buy chanterelles/porcini/oysters/morels etc in shops, it’s not only portobello type
People do that on the regular here in Iowa, granted its a very well known kind of mushroom that gets collected and eaten and not random Super Mario mushrooms.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was real. But I’ll just assume Putin anyway.
I’m sure there was a mushroom involved somehow. Perhaps tripped on a mushroom which caused him to fall, get his head caught in a noose and inadvertently pull the trigger on a shotgun that just happened to be sitting there. The resulting blast blew him out of a 4th story window.
Mushroom poisoning…
Even after the successful special moon operation? Sad.
It was a special “moon hitting” operation.
Operation “surprise moon punch”
Testing new experimental lithobraking technology.
The good news is, our rocket managed to come to a stop on the moon’s surface much faster than expected
The Moon will never try to attack us again now!
And the 4th scientist died from a fractured skull because he DIDN’T WANT TO EAT THE MUSHROOM
cuz that’s going to help get the expertise back…
What, did Russia run out of polonium or something?
They moved to novichock a while ago - which has more or less the same symptoms as mushroom poisoning.
more or less the same symptoms as mushroom poisoning
Only certain cholinergic mushrooms. Those are pretty rare. Usually kidney or liver failure which wouldn’t present those symptoms.
Imagine you are a Russian doctor, you have a patient with severe nausea, diarrhea, blurry vision, headache, muscle weakness, and you don’t want to fall out of a window. What’s your diagnosis?
This level of conspiracy is too much for my credulity. I think Russia is a heavy handed murderous state, but I don’t see the motive or means likely for this dude. I honestly believe it’s more likely he’s just an old guy that died from multiorgan failure from mushroom poisoning. Cholinergic crisis would’ve likely killed him much faster.
Remember Navalny’s poisoning and the wild theories Russian doctors were throwing?
Nope. Like what?
I am always a little amused by the comments of Europeans about Russia as a country of madness and murder. Putin may be a murderer, but he is not a psychopath. Almost 100% is mushroom poisoning. Especially considering how many people in Russia actually pick mushrooms on their own and eat them. On average, about 10,000 Russians are poisoned by mushrooms every year due to the fact that they made a mistake when collecting in the forest. Dies, of course, much less, but the chance is non-zero. I also collect mushrooms in the nearby forest and eat almost all my life. And pickle for the winter too.
UPD: Considering that insults have began, I’m sorry if I offended someone. I’m just surprised how much people are really afraid of one person. Even he is a dictator. Putin kills a line engineer. What’s next? Eat children? It’s amazing that people write insults to me at all. What if I am also a hidden Putin and tomorrow the door handles will be smeared with a “novichok”? XD
Fuck off rusky
Thought they had accounted for everything by having no windows at the space building.
There’s a podcast (Sad Oligarch) that outlines a lot of these “mysterious” deaths in Russia.
You really don’t want to crash that spacecraft on the moon if you’re in Russia, guys.
Russian balconies and windows seem very dangerous. So many people slipped and fell to their death. When you visit Russia, you’ll need to be especially careful near a window in a high rise building, make sure the floor is not slippery and there are no strange men behind your back.
That’s weird, usually hexbear and lemmygrad are super active in any post about Russia, but I don’t see any here…
Unless Im wrong this post is on lemmy.world. They are not federated so they wouldn’t see this post.
Little known fact: Before Putin, all mushrooms were edible.
