Former president tells Glenn Beck he would have ‘no choice’ but to lock up opponents ‘because they’re doing it to us’

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    I was wondering if the actual quote was something more weaselly than that but nope.

    Beck: “If you become president will you lock people up?”

    Trump: “The answer is you have no choice, because they’re doing it to us.”

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      Vote. And get all your friends, coworkers, and families to vote. That’s how we stop this bullshit from happening. And vote at the state and local level too. It actually can make a hell of a difference.

      I’ve voted on stuff that passed by a mere 1,250 votes, and restored bus lines that ran past my house by voting and organizing. It’s kind of amazing to see it in action.

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        So here is the rub. Sit down with a true Trumper sometime, and show them these sorts of quotes. They ARE voting for this. They DO support this. They think this is the right and just thing to do.

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          Have you tried incessantly asking them why? It probably won’t do any good, but it’s easier & possibly more fun than entertaining their position with more thought than they may have put into getting to that position.

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            Asking others and even yourself “why?” when it comes to views is a really good thing to practise, I agree. And don’t leave it to just one layer. Ask “why?” after every single explanation and see how deep you or whoever you’re asking can get. It’s one thing to have a view and a whole another thing to know how you got to that view.

            I’ve gotten out of harmful views by using this technique and realising that the only reason I held some views was because “others told me so”, which caused me to look into things more.

            Of course this won’t work with really stubborn people but it’s a good start to make at least some people think.

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            Yes. They feel it is right in general. Some have some more concrete reasons, but most just seem to feel that way.

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            “Moderate conservatives” are triggered by rainbows.

            “Moderate conservatives” think the only crime is petty crime, and it’s committed only by minorities.

            “Moderate conservatives” think basic tenants of feminism are a threat to all of western society.

            “Moderate conservatives” think teaching civil rights history should be banned.

            “Moderate conservatives” need to die. We will move forward without “Moderate conservatives.”

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        I really feel sorry for the voting system in the US. You have extremely gerrymandered districts in some states, and basically one of two options, and if one of them is corrupt and appealing to the ignorant, you just basically have one that you better hope you don’t disagree too much with.

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    Well he campaigned on “lock her up” and despite nearly a dozen investigations and her testifying in front of Congress for 10 hours, guess what happened? Zippity doo daa

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          I guarantee the person you’re responding wants nothing less than to become educated on this topic.

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        Sure, 39 times, yet no evidence was found of wrongdoing other than business as usual when sensitive into was involved iirc. I’ve never liked her but you gotta give it to her that she’s not exactly the evil that people made her out to be, and in contrast to the rest of these terrible fuckers running the country to the ground

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        You’re thinking of Reagan testifying before Congress about Iran Contra.

        It worked for Karl Rove and Dick Cheney when they talked about vote manipulation in 2004.

        It was also the only way Spiro Agnew got through his corruption hearing in front of Congress while Nixon tried to do the same for Watergate until the taped conversations were released.

        It’s a time tested conservative play when confronted by a request to tell the truth: don’t lie but deny the allegations. Weirdly, I can’t find any time a democrat, Hilary or otherwise, repeated “I don’t recall” for their entire testimony. It just seems to be a conservative play.

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      If you’re expecting someone to actually enforce consequences on him for this you haven’t been paying attention.

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    So they screech about the justice system being weaponized because they’re being tried and prosecuted for their crimes, and then turn around and in the same breath just flat out say they’ll weaponize the justice system. Classic case of saying the quiet part out loud.

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      Most conservatives, as in all of those not in charge, have issues with empathy; specifically imagining the inner world of any other human being. That’s not to say that cannot do this very simple human activity, rather they specifically cannot imagine any other human on the planet thinks any differently or has any other motivations than them. Therefore if they would do something in a situation, then everyone in that situation must be trying to do the thing that they would do.

      They believe democrats are weaponizing the justice system, because it’s what they would do, and thus they assume anyone that failed to do that before now was simply prevented from doing so – now that they see ‘weaponized’ justice happening, they think it’s fair game for their guys to do it.

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      If you (in the general sense) don’t believe that Trump and his cronies committed crimes, then you would likely believe that the justice system is being used to attack him. If it’s being used to attack him, then him doing the same to his opponents is equivalent and fair.

      Whether or not you believe he committed crimes is dependent on your news sources, ability to fact check and think critically, and your trust in the justice system.

      A very significant portion of the population doesn’t believe he committed crimes.

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    They aren’t even hiding that they are wanna-be dictators anymore.
    And “freedom” loving conservatives just cheer this on.
    They “love” America so much, they want to destroy our democracy. The level of hypocrisy amongst the Right is astonishing.

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      They want freedom from accountability, like King Leopold’s congo free state.

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    They need to ask ab9ut this during these republican debate/PR events. Do you support tump’s call tto arrest his political opponents?" Yes or no,

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      Ummm, that’s not the question you’re hoping it is.

      They chanted “lock her up!” at rallies.

      The people who still support this man (and it’s a lot of people) would turn against anyone who answered with a no.

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          The people being asked the question will not answer in good faith. They are blood thirsty, they are angry, and they want a scapegoat, not a civics lesson.

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            If those peo0le who are running for president are blood thirsty, we should probably know about it before voting starts.

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              You can listen to to to them talk at any recorded rally they have. There are interviews with these people. Television debates are not the only way to know thier thoughts.

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              DeSantis was a lawyer for Gitmo; Trump wanted to execute five innocent black men before he had any political ambitions; Vivek fully embraces the caste system that benefited his family in the past, and has pretty openly suggested he wants to use violence to implement it here. We know the people who are running for president are blood thirsty, they don’t hide that in any way. They chose to run on a conservative platform, violence is inherent to the ideology, and on top of that frequently advertise how well they would play the role of violence if elected.

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                Those 5 black men he wanted executed were between 14 and 16 years old.

                He wanted to execute five black and Hispanic children. That’s what he wanted to do. Paid from his own pocket to advertise it too.

                I’m not correcting you because I disagree, I just wanted to drive that point home.

                Your comment is 100% on point aside from that little error.

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      They already asked them if they would support Trump as nominee ( their political rival ) if he was arrested and imprisoned. I think 6 of 8 said “yes”.

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    He’ll have to find a way to get Congress to approve a bill that eliminates themselves and the judicial branch of government first.

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      He is a dictator… I feel like if we get to that point… Congress agreeing to bills is the least of our problems coming

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        Step one is to pack congress with republicans. Mostly with total disregard for the law or morality, as that’s Trump’s modus operandi.

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          Won’t be hard to do when they don’t have to lie about what a shitty president Biden has been for the poor and middle class. He won 2016 because 6,000,000 lost their homes under Obama and he didn’t do anything meaningful to stop it.

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            Anytime there’s a conversation about trump, fascism, and white supremacists in America, there’s always at least one of the “dEmOcrAtS sHoUld HaVE dOnE MoRe” crowd. It’s so stupid, I can’t help but think it’s very intentional misdirection. Like it’s some astroturfed bullshit from a conservative think tank.

            America is shitty for the poor (there is no middle class anymore). So at this point, if voting for someone who is not a fucking fascist dictator is all we can do, then that’s what we’re going to do.

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              Joe Quimby is so weak he allowed Sideshow Bob, a convicted criminal, out of prison. So you should vote for Sideshow Bob!

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      Has nobody on the internet ever read a history book? Who cares what Congress thinks when you have an autocrat jailing his political opponents? It’s not relevant anymore.

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        This. Far too many sympathetic fascist-curious, fascist-adjacent, and outright fascists in the Republican Party (and the police, and the army and the FBI, etc…) that DGAF about institutional norms.

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        In order for Donald Trump to become an autocrat, he’d have to dissolve 2 of the 3 branches of government. In order to dissolve the branches of government, he’d need one of the branches of government that he doesn’t control to agree to be dissolved. Then the SCOTUS would have to rule on the constitutionality of Congress being eliminated, which, if they’re acting ethically (har har) they would immediately halt. He can sign executive orders, but the more EOs a president signs, the more they create tension within the voting population, potentially leading to unrest and if left unchecked, worse.

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          All of that shit goes out the window when you have an army of racist cops, and potentially the actual US military backing you. I’d like to think they’d shut it down real quick, but enlisted men are overwhelmingly conservative (and Trump supporters) if I recall. There are militias who have been “training” (most of them are probably a joke, but let’s not forget what the Bundys did with just a few guys) for decades for a moment like this.

          This is what I meant when I mentioned reading history books. This is far from uncharted territory. This is how these things happen historically. We’re watching it happen in realtime.

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    Once again the Right is accusing the Left of things the Right wants to do.

    Pretty sneaky trick really.

    Say your enemy is going to do something

    Do it

    Get told “Hey you’re doing X”

    Tell them “Projecting much? Everyone knows you’re the one who’s doing X, I even said so before you accused me of anything!”

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    Apart from the whole dictator thing, they had the presedential power for 4 years and managed to lock up exactly nobody… Not saying they’re not dangerous but why would their base believe them this time, action should really speak louder than words with those simpletons and Trump has been all words.