Honestly, the insistence that Lemmy has better discussions than Reddit. Mostly even popular posts have too few comments to constitute any in depth discussion. I won’t be going back to Reddit but I miss the vibrancy.
This but about how almost everything about Lemmy is spun as either good, or better than reddit’s equivalent.
Like the other day I saw a post about how Lemmy’s active users were on the decline, trying to claim that was somehow good for Lemmy. Or back when Lemmy had its /r/place copy, there were plenty of people saying it was better than reddit’s. Basically anything about Lemmy that’s somewhat lacking has people desperately trying to defend it as actually superior.
It borders on delusional at times. Yes Lemmy is good, but reddit is still better in dozens of ways, almost all of them related to user count. And this is coming from one of the people who deleted their reddit account and replaced it with Lemmy cold turkey - I haven’t been back there (except for porn) in almost 8 weeks.
Yes, I miss reddit for porn. Porn lemmy is lackluster
And not niche enough. The stuff I like on reddit has 28 posts from the last 24 hours. The equivalent on lemmynsfw hasn’t had a single post since mid-July and I’m pretty sure the restrictive rules on pornlemmy would just ban it if posted there.
You do know you need an account on the NSFW instances to see the stuff on them right?
Yes. I have one exclusively for it.
I see them just fine without one, but I did allow nsfw on my account when I created it
There is more. Go check the stickied post.
The stickied post on nsfw lemmy or ask lemmy or something else? And there’s more porn? Because honestly, that’s like telling me there’s more furry, Star Trek, and Linux content there- it’s already all over my front page and I don’t need any more.
but reddit is still better in dozens of ways, almost all of them related to user count.
It’s not though, because it’s all locked away through an interface that doesn’t work for many people. And it doesn’t matter how good what’s on the other side is, if there is a barrier that ensures I won’t ever be on the other side.
It goes both ways. There are ways Lemmy is better than reddit, even in this early stage - and the default interface is 100% one of those. Default reddit is getting more and more like facebook these days.
But the lack of users on lemmy really hurts it. Of the 20 posts on my current All page, 13 of them have 0 comments. 5 of the remaining 7 have fewer than 5 comments.
I really think Lemmy has the potential to eventually surpass reddit - but I by no means at all think it’s even close to that point yet. While it still has a long way to go software-wise, growing its userbase is by far the biggest hurdle it has to overcome. And as long as reddit keeps getting worse I think we’ll get there.
I did get your point that reddit’s strengths don’t really matter if it’s wrapped in a package that’s unusable. I just disagree that that means Lemmy is automatically better in every way.
I am also not overly into this chat - because of what I said not what you said. I considered deleting my original message because it was more negative than I care to be, but left it because people had already replied. I’d really rather not get sucked into a chain of messages where all I’m doing is complaining about Lemmy.
There are plenty of users. The issue is they’re not all working together on the same content.
That’s the really the issue with defederation as a solution for Reddit. Reddit was what it was because of a single, shared userbase all commenting and voting on the same things.
The fediverse was sold to us as working the same way but the results have been the opposite. It’s fragmented with invisible walls.
That’s just being obtuse. Reddit does, in fact, have better content. You wouldn’t say a restaurant has shitty food because you don’t like the decor.
That’s just being obtuse. Reddit does, in fact, have better content.
I’m not denying that. I’m saying it doesn’t matter, because I can’t access it except through an app that I actively dislike using
I still use both Lemmy and Reddit and I honestly think Lemmy is in a sweet spot where there are enough comments for a discussion but not enough to go off topic.
Reddit discussions are never about the OP, they’re always riffing on an off-topic joke that someone made in a reply to the already off-topic top comment.
Eh, Lemmy has the issue where the activity is low enough that the substantial number of low effort comments and comments that regurgitate the same bland sentiment are overwhelming.
These comments were annoying on Reddit and was my primary reason for leaving.
Hackernews manages a better balance. It is not as active as Reddit but there are a lot of insightful comments that balance out the low-effort contributions.
As an example: I’d happily happily throw a block party the day Elon Musk launches himself into the sun. I don’t need to see an article every time he takes a dump and the corresponding 50 comments about “elon is a menace”
Or anything Threads. The amount of exaggerated and irrational commentary about that was incredibly offputting.
Lemmy users also tend to be stuck in one mind set and that is they know what they are talking about all the time no matter what even if their opinion is actually kind of shit.
In fairness, this is practically everywhere on the internet.
Yeah Reddit was no different
“lemmy users”, most people here have been here for barely 2 months. The site doesn’t have a defined culture yet, if it ever will given its fragmentation.
I get that you can’t stand having to see opinions you disagree with, but you’re really trying to prop up some punching bag here that doesn’t exist.
Nah, there is a culture here and there was before the reddit move. If there wasn’t then I could just say, “there are now more reddit users and you guys are like reddit users.”
However, most Lemmy users who were here before are going to say, “this isn’t like reddit.”
Also, it’s not about disagreeing with opinions because as you have said that is the internet. It is about seeing people who think they are techy and and that there is one way and one way only. I will give you some examples: Linux is way better than any other OS, FOSS is the only way because why would you buy something, Ew 3 dollars a month for Google drive the cloud is just too expensive, just pirate everything that will stick it to big corporations.
It’s not a disagreement to opinion because these are things I also believe to some extent but on Lemmy they are extreme thoughts to the point of outright ignoring users asking about something and Lemmy downvoting and ignoring their question. So now Lemmy becomes more inclusive. There is also a, “actually,” vibe here and a, “Im not like other girls,” culture that most Lemmy users think they are so different from Reddit that they are actually just different kind of jerks.
Oh, then there is the, “yeah man, I know everything about privacy and security.” And those types of Lemmy users have no idea how much of a nightmare privacy and security is on the Fediverse in general.
So sure I will prop up a punching bag and take a swing but this is the internet if you feel like the punching bag and this felt like a hit then it probably means I’m not too far off.
I love your you immediately got 4 replies proving your point. 🤣
Same dog piling happens on lemmy as it did in reddit. You try to introduce any nuance for discussion on a circle jerk thread, and it’s down vote knee reactions.
I tried tildes, but it’s the opposite problem. Pages of text for simple arguments that could be expressed in a paragraph, and people mincing words being too polite to get to the fucking point that they disagree. And if you’re blunt and to the point, it ruffles feathers.
I half-agree with this. I think that this depends a lot on the topic and, while the smaller amount of comments does hurt discussion depth, the individual comments themselves partially offset this by being more thoughtful.
And, while anecdotal, I think that there’s a considerably lower ratio of comments with negative discussion value here in Lemmy than in Reddit. I’m not even talking about the out-of-place jokes (although they add noise), but shit like this:
- “waaah, TL;DR!!” discouraging in-depth explainations
- feigned lack of understanding as ad nauseam tactic
- context illiteracy
- unchecked assumptions towards other users, for the sake of ad hominem
- “trust me”
Don’t get me wrong; you do find this crap here, but IMO it’s way less than in Reddit. And they hurt discussion because they either waste the time of the more thoughtful and knowledgeable users, or outright disengage them.
I agree 100%. On Reddit you usually had the same style top few comments but under those you could actually see good conversation and discussions. Here everyone thinks they are right and you are wrong and nothing you can say can change that.
Alright lemmy let’s give this guy the most in depth talk about why lemmy has better discussions than reddit.
Lemmy isn’t known for using bots to fill in gaps in user engegement, mostly
Fucking yes! I hated being interrupted constantly by useless bots telling me the meaning of random words or the differences in grammar. Shit was off topic and unnecessary.
Yeah, I miss hoping on some niche tech sub and saying that I was having trouble with xyz specific thing and I’d had multiple people comment that were super knowledgeable about that exact thing.
Tankies.
You can’t have a discussion about anything without some tankie blaming it on Ukrainians / the west / capitalism, etc.
“Oh you stubbed your toe on the table? See, tables are oppressive furniture of the bourgeoisie. The Chinese government wanted to make all tables toe-stubbing resistent, but that would affect IKEA’s bottom line and the pharmaceutical industry’s profits. I have a source from tankiepeoplesmagazine to back this up.”
I made the mistake of mentionning social democracy once. This was followed by the most pedantic, insufferable and useless argument I have ever had on the internet. I had better discussions with wall. This was first and last time I was replying to those comments. It is easy to ignore anyway. Sometime you learn the hard way.
I’m genuinely curious to see that … do you have a link at all or something to search for?
bourgeoisie
Always makes me laugh when I see this. I’m tempted to start a hexbear bingo, it’ll be the first one on the list!
I almost never see this, but I see complaints about “tankies” all the time. I’m not even sure what a tankie is, but it seems about as stupid as the term “woke”.
Have a look at comments in any news article regarding Ukraine. They will simp for Russia just because they are not US allies.
A tankie is commonly used to refer to someone who blindly defends the actions of the USSR, China, North Korea, etc. Going as far as denying human rights abuses and genocide.
It’s not the same thing as woke.
I know it’s not the same as woke, the word just hits the same level of annoyingness for me.
I’m all for shutting down those who support Russia right now, I just feel like using buzzwords makes it more difficult to take people seriously.
The term goes back to the 50s and 60s, hardly a buzzword.
Sorry to tell you, but you’ve been living under a rock.
I never saw that word used until I came to lemmy. I had to look it up and found that exact same wiki page for it.
Just because its a real word with a wiki page doesn’t make it any less annoying to constantly see on here. And only here. I see that word on NO other sites I ever visit.
It’s a very common word in leftist circles. So if Lemmy is your first contact with leftists (beyond center left), then that explains it.
Being annoying is your opinion, but it’s not a buzzword that someone from gen z invented recently.
I didn’t say it was a buzzword.
I’m in the US and “lefty” might mean something different for me than it does for you. Where I live and the sites I go on - have leftys on there but no, they never use the term tankie.
Annoying is an opinion yes, but I’m saying its annoying because of how often it is brought up. Not that I’m siding with tankies or people who are against tankies.
Anything that gets repeated over and over is going to come across as annoying. Unless you like redundancy.
What’s equally annoying is people who won’t shut up about “tankies.”
Honestly, everyone across this argument sucks. But I wold like to point out, that not a single “tankie” has complained about anything in the comments here.
You, however….
this is a thread specifically for complaining about stuff you don’t like.
don’t be so butthurt about it.
The funny thing is that u/Pratai@lemmy.ca is in lemmy.ca which defederated hexbear and lemmygrad so he won’t see the annoying tankies.
Wouldn’t care if I did. Because I don’t care what other people are into.
So complaining about too much complaining in a thread for complaining is too much complaining because it’s not the complaint you yourself have?
I too am able to complain about the complainants complaint. if you too have a complaint concerning my complaint complaint complaint please don’t hesitate to post it as a response to this complaint
Well, I don’t mind if I do!! Fourth complaint is the charm?!
Buttthurt? Don’t think you know me that well kiddo.
I was simply pointing out the irony. I couldn’t care less about either side of the argument.
Don’t think you know me that well kiddo.
The cringe is killing me
Found the Lemmy user who is upset that someone called them out.
I don’t think so … I think that’s someone talking about
what is the most annoying thing you have seen about Lemmy users?… the question and point of the post. Honestly, I think it’s poor form to create a thread for criticising lemmy users/culture to then find certain critiques (which you evidently disagree with) to be inherently invalid without presenting any sort of discussion or explanation for your view in any remotely polite fashion.Did you miss the part where I said everyone across the argument sucks? I didn’t even know what a tankie was until I asked a while back. I think the entire thing is fucking stupid.
But I see a LOT of people whining about them. Which is ironic considering that the person I responded to called themselves out by making evening about tankies, while people who whine about them do exactly that by whining about them.
What’s there to complain? We get some breathing room, finally lol
Yea, I’m with you … the most “annoying” think about tankies is all of the noise about them as though they’re some degenerate scum bringing down society.
It’s not hard to move past a political opinion you don’t like, or a big and hairy political debate you don’t have time/energy for. But it doesn’t mean a whole bunch of people have to be shunned/exiled because they happen to trigger your inability to do so … or that you have to whine about their presence all of the time.
If they’re in your comments saying it’s a good thing civilians are being tortured to death and bombed because they were born in the wrong place then that’s not just political differences.
Their goal is explicitly to silence others by sheer volume of bullshit.
saying it’s a good thing civilians are being tortured to death and bombed because they were born in the wrong place
I mean, who disagrees with you here … that’s the sort of stuff moderation and blocking is for.
But I can’t help but suspect (perhaps naively) that that’s your read of someone else’s opinion and not what they actually said or even intended to say, largely because it seems you’re projecting consequences onto a difference of principles/interpretations.
No they’re actively supporting it in a literal sense. Tell them Russia needs to stop killing civilians and they’ll say something about corruption needing to be purged (as if killing civilians will do that), or something about denazification, or deny it’s happening despite all evidence
Some of them have a real thing for saying the Tiananmen Square massacre never happened and there’s no evidence, too. I guess I just hallucinated those news reports at the time with screams and gunfire in the background.
Hmmm … I think I might have seen a statement or two like that. Though, in my cases, it seemed a lot more like moving the goal posts or not arguing so well their general anti-western sentiment … I don’t think I’ve seen anyone go so far as to support the killing of civilians (in fact, I saw opposition to the deaths of civilians).
Do you have any receipts?
And, FWIW, my general position here is that I’m not a “tankie” or whatever and don’t necessarily like everything they have to say around here, but, by default I lean toward having access to a wide set of opinions so long as I have the option of walking away or ignoring them when I need to. The thing that disturbs me about a lot of the “anti-tankie” sentiments is that it looks a lot like an aggressive enforcement of a political bubble against any hardline critiques of the west. I, for one, am happy to hear said critiques even if they are off-base most of the time, in part because I have no doubt that we are all living in sometimes petty political bubbles.
That, of course, doesn’t excuse being awful … it’s just that I haven’t encountered the degree of awfulness that many speak about and whenever I’ve gone looking (which, admittedly isn’t deeply or often) I have struggled to find what has been accused. Because of this, I’m always curious to see what “anti-tankies” are talking about.
I have zero problems with critique of the west. The problem is those people only want to allow criticism of the west and nothing else
I have an entire conversation on here where the majority of Lemmy users told me democrats should start killing people.
Also, what fucking moderation?
It is kinda bs that republicans kill people constantly but democrats never do. The solution is ideally that republicans stop killing people though. I don’t think suddenly becoming just as murderous is a good idea unless we break out into literal civil war.
I have an entire conversation on here where the majority of Lemmy users told me democrats should start killing people.
I gotta ask for receipts for that one. Also … what do you mean by “democrats should start killing people?”
Also, what fucking moderation?
Well however ineffective some may find it, moderation does occur on lemmy. But beyond that, my point was that an awful statement is an awful statement and should be dealt with accordingly. But it doesn’t necessarily mean that an entire political position thinks the same way and to infer as much without more would really just be prejudice.
I keep seeing this type of argument being made, the problem is though, it’s not just political differences.
These users will brigade, follow you around, harass you, post objectionable memes and content, etc if you disagree with them. If you think that it’s just “political differences” and not a big deal, I suggest you spend your time preaching to the group that actually can’t handle being disagreed with and not the rest of us for simply noticing and talking about how horrible that group is.
I’ve also seen “we’re adults, so lets just move on and not defederate/ban” but the problem here is one group is not actually acting like adults so that argument doesn’t work.
I’ve also seen “we’re adults, so lets just move on and not defederate/ban”
I’m not talking about defederation. Anyone wants to defederate, go right ahead, that’s your right here, and I’m not too interested in getting upset at anyone that wants to do so. That being said, talking about defederation decisions and policies at a general level is also important because of the relationship admins have over users … though here on lemmy we’re pretty happy having multiple accounts and moving around so it isn’t so much of an issue.
These users will brigade, follow you around, harass you, post objectionable memes and content,
Woah … I haven’t seen that, do you have links/receipts on that?
I suggest you spend your time preaching to the group that actually can’t handle being disagreed with
I presume you’re talking about tankies … what do you mean by “can’t handle”?
People who support the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the CCP’s violations of human rights ARE degenerate scum bringing down society.
I am never going to stop whining about their presence.
Here is how I read this,
“You don’t have to make me feel like I am whining about things.”
“So you stop whining about things. Quit talking so I can.”
Found yet another Lemmy user to prove my point.
So a lemmy user criticising a general behavour of lemmy users in a thread asking lemmy users what crticisms they have of other lemmy users … is considered by the OP of the thread to be problematic and “proof of [their] point” … I’m honestly lost.
Shrugging off extremist views as “just a political opinion” that should be ignored if you don’t like it is like the #1 way to normalize and spread extremist views. You do not, and should not, politely ignore extremist. Doing so is explicitly allowing and inviting more into your community. Tankies can fuck off and I will continue to say so.
Well, the way I see it is that tankies are pretty much a minority without any power in the west, and, at least the ones I’ve seen around here, aren’t actively organising any sort of violent revolutionary behaviour or anything … which means their views tend to always be critiques of the powerful western governments and mainstream cultures form the perspectives of minorities, and often in ways that many in the mainstream find unpalatable, and therefore unconvincing. So, even if “extreme” (whatever you mean by that exactly) in some way, it’s a “punching up” kind of “extreme” that I’m open minded to hearing, however agreeable or disagreeable I tend to find their opinions.
Do you really think tankies are convincing? This thread, at least, indicates otherwise. So much “extremism” are they going to be spreading? IMO, the sort of “extremism” much more likely to spread is the sort of stuff driven by hate of some sort of “other” weaker and smaller than the mainstream as a scapegoat, not least because it’s more amenable to the worldview(s) of the larger and more powerful majority.
The “extremist views” I’m talking about is the support for authoritarian regimes that use draconian laws and excessive military force to enforce the law. Tankies often do support the subjugation of people they deem “lesser”, but unlike extremist on the far right, they often keep that part quiet.
The fact that you’re downplaying the extremity of Tankie talking points is a perfect example of how they are able to normalize their opinions by being allowed a voice in groups where their opinions should be shunned and shamed.
This is a great breakdown of the exact thing I’m talking about.. The video focuses on these tactics and how they are used by the alt-right, but this is not something exclusive to the right and is exactly what tankies are doing on lemmy.
I mean if a political opinion I don’t like is one that says “hey these people shouldn’t be allowed in our country because they are a different color” or “we should allow a president to betray the entire country and sell it out” then no that’s a pretty big deal and those people should be shunned or exiled
“hey these people shouldn’t be allowed in our country because they are a different color” or “we should allow a president to betray the entire country and sell it out”
Wait … are these views pushed by tankies? Do you have any links … genuinely curious?
It’s not hard to move past a political opinion you don’t like, or a big and hairy political debate you don’t have time/energy for. But it doesn’t mean a whole bunch of people have to be shunned/exiled because they happen to trigger your inability to do so … or that you have to whine about their presence all of the time.
Funny, you sound just like my uncle. Do you have confederate flags hanging up in your room too, like he does?
All the “Linux is obviously superior, anybody that doesn’t use Linux is a sheep” comments.
We get it, you use Linux. That’s fine, but nobody else actually gives a shit. It’s exactly like the typical loud vegan or crossfit stereotypes except those are generally less fat and are generally nicer to be around. You guys need to tone it down quite a bit, you don’t realize how off putting you’re making Linux to people.
As a Linux user myself, it saddens me to see how much the Linux fandom is invalidating itself with its aggressive attitude.
As a proud GNU/ArchHat Ubungentoo Linux user, I disagree. I need others to know and agree with my choice of distribution, desktop environment, shell (POSIX sh btw), untained patched kernel, AMD graphics card, and IDE (vim obvs). How else would I get to feel like I’m more woke than other users both inside and outside my fandom?
Parody aside: It’s one thing to politely discuss your software choices with other people to help them find things they haven’t tried before. It’s another to proselytize like a self-righteous prick.
Linux isn’t about the fandom, though. If someone is interested in a third option for OS, they will seek Linux because that’s what it is, not because the fandom attracted them to it.
I feel the worst examples is when you try to engage with the Linux people trying to explain why you can’t use it and they’re just in complete denial
I like Linux, but I can’t use it because I very frequently use CAD programmes like fusion 360 which run exclusively on windows. Mention that and you’ll spammed with “what about FreeCAD?” From people who either have never used freeCAD and are just grabbing the first Google result for “fusion 360 FOSS alternatives” or are in complete denial over how goddamn shit freeCAD is like I’m sorry that is not a functional alternative.
Oh man the FreeCAD discussion
I also use fusion and while FreeCAD has improved significantly, it’s still lacking in critical areas
The replies are always “but it’s gotten better”
Yeah, and it still pops up and error and wrests control away if you dare select a dimension tool and points/lines in the “wrong” order
The replies are always “but it’s gotten better”
It’s funny how often I see this.
Comment from 2023: “Yeah, but FreeCAD has improved a lot over the past couple years, and it is finally a viable alternative now.”
Comment from 2021: “Yeah, but FreeCAD has improved a lot over the past couple years, and it is finally a viable alternative now.”
Comment from 2015: “Yeah, but FreeCAD has improved a lot over the past couple years, and it is finally a viable alternative now.”
Comment from 2004: “Yeah, but FreeCAD has improved a lot over the past couple years, and it is finally a viable alternative now.”
You can see that said about just about any FOSS software. And I am a total FOSS-head myself, more commenting on the community than the software.
Same boat. I do dev work and there is simply no Linux alternative for some of the custom tools we use. I tried dual-booting and running VMs, even got one with direct access to the gpu, in the end it is a huge time sink.
Sure, but I don’t see how that’s an issue with the people suggesting Linux? If you can’t use it, ok, but there’s no reason why they’re going to assume that.
Were you online before Facebook? It was mostly nerds in the 90s and half nerds in the 2000s. You came to a car show and are upset that people are talking about cars. You’re on Wall Street asking “what’s up with all the suits?”
Literally no one is going to tone it down.
I never understood this either. “Why are users of an aggressively open-source service so adamant about using open-source software?” Especially when Lemmy’s been around for years, so yeah it’s cultivated a majority Linux userbase.
Same, when you’re so dead set against open source, why not stay at the commercial solutions?
It’a not about being against open source, it’s about putting practicality over ideals. Some software simply isn’t there yet.
Except most of them will never be “there” without support, but also because the commercial options have the resources to out develop them at every turn.
And the truth is, maybe it needs to be more about ideals. Not caring about them is why we are seeing the current trends we’re seeing: people put convenience above choosing to support something they believe in. That’s why Chromium is everything now. That’s why Windows is increasingly shitified and anti-competitve with no serious consequences. That’s why a significant number of people that opposed Spez are still on Reddit fulltime. If the average user was a bit more idealistic, maybe there’d actually be a movement to push back on these trends. But they don’t.
Man, I’m just here because I found spez’s reaction to criticism both sad and so disgustingly corporatist that I didn’t want to interact with his product anymore. But I don’t have strong opinions on that sort of thing. My internet usage is mostly just killing time between work and real life tasks. Mostly early morning while I’m just waiting for my Adderall to kick in and for it to get late enough in the morning to get started on stuff. This internet space is not a significant part of my life. But I do want my time here to be enjoyable and the weird way that people on here make subjective choices a major part of their personality and get aggressive to outsiders can be off-putting. I’m clearly not alone in this. A lot of people just want a place to casually read some interesting stuff on the internet without constantly being preached to about the moral necessity of specific computer environments everywhere you go. Enjoying it as a hobby or whatever is fine, but like, chill guys. There isn’t some Linux Hell we’ll end up in if we don’t convert before we all die.
There isn’t some Linux Hell we’ll end up in if we don’t convert before we all die.
There is, MS Windows. ;)
Just kidding. For most, it’s just fine to use closed source products, however, the most/earliest adopters of the fediverse are open source adepts. Accept their weirdness that brings you the free environment (ok, based on donations, but nothing is forced upon you). They put their spare time into the development and maintenance of the environment. They give free tips, either try it out or ignore them.
But this isn’t a Linux-centered instance.
Just because the Fediverse is FOSS doesn’t mean we have to shill out to everything FOSS on every instance.
That is like claiming since the Fediverse runs on servers, we should all ditch our regular computers and phones and only connect over server hardware.
It is okay to like FOSS, but it is an other thing to keep bringing it up ad nauseam, especially if the topic isn’t even related. It only makes the Linux community look bad.
But this isn’t a Linux-centered instance.
Your instance maybe, but some are, like programming.dev, and the way federation works is we can all talk to eachother.
Not everyone is on db0 either but unless you’re on lemmy.world, welcome to !c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Then downvote them and move on, man. You’re complaining about people using the platform they believe in to talk about something else they believe in. They’re not doing anything wrong, and whether or not it annoys you is not anyon else’s concern but your own.
That’s why there a voting system.
Yes! As well as “Only ever use hardened
FirefoxLibrewolf and Duckduckgo, every other product is the literal devil”I mean…we have quite a bit of evidence of at this point that Google and Microsoft are creating problems for the future of the internet and technology in general.
I won’t say they’re the literal devil but I can’t say I’d argue with anyone that says they are.
Calling out horrible practices and encouraging people to use the alternatives that don’t do that shit…yeah, I’m not seeing an issue.
I’m not talking about the tech giants, but the loudest groups here treat alternatives like Brave, Vivaldi, etc. the same way
Iirc the isue with brave for most is that it was made by a “Nazi” (https://www.change.org/p/brendan-eich-brave-software-stop-providing-a-revenue-stream-for-white-supremacist-paedophiles). Personally the issue for me is that it wants to torrent for me but I want qbit to do it, and it’s chrome based. Vivaldi is also chrome based iirc, which is also a problem for people who don’t like the tech giants or the internet DRM bullshit google is trying to pull rn, but unless I’m mistaken idt they’re the worst other than that whole “chromium” thing.
Frankly, if you’re still all-in on the Windows or Apple ecosystem, there’s no way to pull you to Linux.
The best Linux spokesmen has been Microsoft lately. I’m not using Linux because I necessarily want to. I want to keep using my clean version of 10, but they’re taking that choice from me. I’m using Linux because I won’t tolerate that shit at this point.
So Linux folks can be as aggressive as they want, it won’t move the needle either way. People are either willing to try it to escape Apple and Microsoft, or they aren’t.
I’m annoyed by all those Facebook-type boomer comics you see on basically all meme subs. Reddit culture managed to get rid of them, but for some reason people here seem to love them
Look, sometimes people enjoy brainless humor and that’s okay. People have hard days. Twelve hours in the field days. Sometimes people are tired and just want something easy and that’s perfectly valid.
As the sages of old said, “It’s okay to not like things. It’s okay, but don’t be a dick about it.”
I know, I don’t really care, I’m just replying to the thread :)
It’s annoying but also interesting to see that people upvote different things
Any example? Out of curiosity
This would be the last one I saw. I probably have plenty more examples in my downvotes, but I don’t think they’re accessible on Lemmy :(
Thanks, now I get what you mean
How is it boomer ?
Kids don’t like anything that doesn’t have foul language, sexual innuendos, or involves subtly.
That said, while I liked the comic linked, it had no business being posted in a meme community.
Sincerely, A boomer
All the empty communities without any motivation from the creating user to actually be involved in their own community. I honestly think they should be deleted if they’re not active. Inb4 “be the change/create your own”. No, I don’t want to run a community so I don’t create a community. Neither should you. Nobody benefits from all these empty reservations of space. It might actually hinder the people who have a need for a community. It’s like showing up at an empty store. “Oh I guess I’ll go somewhere else for this then”
Political extremists. So about the same as Reddit, though they seem to be a little more frequent/outspoken here. Also funnily enough the complete opposite side of the spectrum. Used to get called a dirty commie because I believed in Nationalized healthcare, but now I’m apparently a facist for not worshipping the CCP.
This goes not only for the tankies, unfortunately…
I see 1000 more posts against tankies then actual talkie posts… so like… get off it.
If anything Lemmy users so far have been much less annoying than most reddit users. I feel like I’m reading through less garbage, and comment sections don’t look like the same joke repeated ad nauseum.
Of course you are reading through less garbage. There are like 100 million reddit users and like 10 Lemmy users.
My experience has been different. I feel like I see the same, “Linux is better.” Shit all the time. All the memes are also, “Windows user realizing this. Linux user not caring.”
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When they’re right, they’re right
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Yeah, but that doesn’t happen often.
Especially when they base their Windows knowledge on only their own preferences, that are usually out-dated or at least poorly researched.
People liking Linux is ruining your enjoyment of a FOSS platform? Tell me you appreciate the irony.
You seem seriously triggered about something you’ve been reading in other threads and need to vent, so go off, let’s here it.
And this is the aggressive attitude I was just talking about.
Just because you enjoy one instance of FOSS doesn’t mean you have to start a bloodpact with all of them.
Hexbear neonazi tankies one one side, overbearing blocking on the other.
lemmy really needs a way for users to individually block instances
Or common clients like voyager need it. should be doable. Would sell me on a client instantly
Connect
Sync for lemmy has it
Only blocks them in the feed, but not in comments
Good idea. Could probably submit a feature request for that
Sync has it
I swear Jerboa let you block entire instances, something I desperately wish Sync could do
This platform is almost 100% idealism and politics. Any hobby/technical community goes completely inactive.
The number of pro-communist posts in here is comical. The amount of anti-capitalist posts is almost comical. Obviously related to some degree.
The lack of posts outside of a few main news and politics communities is frustrating.
do you think capitalism is good or something
Capitalism is the economic equivalent of Nature’s own survival of the fittest.
No one will claim that capitalism is being implemented perfectly, that’s for sure, but the number of communist clowns on Lemmy is absurd. Bunch of 14 year olds trying to be edgy.
It’s sad so many capitalism cheerleaders migrated here, considering most of us are literally here fleeing capitalist greed rot.
Some just refuse to learn. The sunk cost fallacy of “I’ve committed my life to this thing, and no amount of evidence will ever make me accept my mistake as a mistake!”
Should have stayed just stayed to be disrespected by Spez in the name of his profit.
Some of them keep talking about their Ex (Reddit).
So I couldn’t help myself, and looked at a bit of your posting history.
Gotta say, you seem a bit angsty. If you have opinions different from what’s mainstream here (though I’m not sure arguments about Linux are really mainstream, even here), that’s all well and good, and a decent enough reason to not enjoy your time here.
But your engagement seems somewhat anger driven, and that seems to colour your challenges here, where feeling like you’re the lone voice of wisdom seems to fuel your angst.
You got to it before I did. This whole thread is your typical asking a question as way to sound off about something else in the comments. Dude is grumpy and needs people to see.
Snooping post history is a red flag, mam. Pretty low, and not a Reddit feature I’m particularly keen on retaining.
So what if I spend all my time posting pornographic images of King Richard the third? Not really relevant to the argument at hand, is it?
In this case it was relevant. And I wasn’t looking to nor did I cast any aspersions or generalisations based on any quirky or strange post behaviour. I only sought to understand what kind of negative experiences OP had with lemmy.
It’s creepy. Comment history should only be searchable by Admin for the purpose of evaluating a ban IMO.
I hear you and sympathise. Here on the fediverse, privacy isn’t really a thing and you’re best off thinking of this is a big connected public blog, as problematic or undesirable as that may be.
It’s really goddamn preachy. There’s a real sense of superiority a lot of users have that I don’t recall as much on Reddit.
There’s also the fact that small communities are dead and it’s next to impossible to grow them, so you’re stuck with the same people on the front page every day.
The defederation topic and how it impacts me.
I’m an adult, if I find something offensive I’ll either block it or ignore it. However, not giving me the choice offends me and IMHO goes against what Lemmy and the fediverse was suppose to deliver.
I understand (and read) the reason’s why site owners defederate and I view it largely as “Lemmy isn’t mature enough to support more granular blocking - yet”, so I wait patiently and hope this trend towards defederation doesn’t turn into a powertrip by site owners “for the good of their users…”
Imo, defederation isn’t the exile sentence everyone is making out to be. It is used like you said as a bandaid as a moderation tool, but really just about “anyone” can boot up an instance and have complete agency on which Instances are visible.
I’d be more concerned if all the big instances ganged up together to form a whitelist club, but this this is a more complex discussion, and there is no sign of it happenning.
Depends on the reason for me. I totally get why .world blocked those 3 communities (not a defed I know but still) given the possible legal issues and given the admin isn’t a lawyer and can’t afford to retain a high powered legal team. Blocking those communities until they have a legal opinion just seems like good sense to me.
The hexbear thing - they’re evangelical totalitarians politically. They believe what they believe and everything they talk about revolves around that and they need you to hear it, again and again and again. It’s just mentally exhausting dealing with them, especially when a large part of their freely admitted m.o. is brigading/dog-piling.
Being fedded with lemmynsfw didn’t bother me, I hardly ever saw anything from it as I rarely feel the need to go on ‘All’. I understand there were some anime jailbait issues? That’s probably a pretty good reason to defed from an instance.
So, and this is admittedly all from my perspective, I haven’t seen any overbearing uses of defedding.
And I think people need to realise defedding is not like banning. On reddit if a sub got banned it was gone. On Lemmy if one instance defeds from another, the other instance is still there. You still have the choice to view it.
Bots copy pasting content from Reddit.
There are community filled only with that, no upvotes, no comment, no nothing.
When you finally block the bot those communities disappear as the bot is the only active user.
When you finally block the bot those communities disappear as the bot is the only active user.
And that’s why the bot exists
