No surprises here. Just like the lockdown on iPhone screen and part replacements, Macbooks suffer from the same Apple’s anti-repair and anti-consumer bullshit. Battery glued, ssd soldered in and can’t even swap parts with other official parts. 6000$ laptop and you don’t even own it.

  • miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    33
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    So, genuine question.

    What other laptops are there with comparable screens? Colour gamut, accuracy and all the good stuff Apple does so well.

    Some day I might need something to work with on the go, and I need a good display.

    Edit: Well, didn’t expect so many answers in as little time, thank you

    • Ucalegon@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      22
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Asus OLED laptop screens are as good (or better depending on what your criteria are). If you do print, they are Pantone Validated.

    • boring_bohr@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      I’ve been using a Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i (or Slim Pro 9i if you’re in the US) for around half a year now and have been loving it so far. 14" MiniLED screen, 100% DCI-P3, can get really bright, has a touch screen (if that’s something you like) and a 165 Hz refresh rate. Can’t speak for the color accuracy though.

      I got the i9 variant with 32GB RAM and an RTX 4060 GPU during a “Mega Power” sale and with an additional 10% off as a Student for just over 2000€, but even the normal price is “only” (compared to your MacBooks and XPSs) around 2500€ iirc.

      RAM is sadly soldered onto the motherboard but at least you get 6400MHz for it. Storage is upgradeable.

      Connectivity is great (2x USB-C with PD3.1 for 140W charging, one also supporting Thunderbolt 4, HDMI, full-size SD Card reader, 2x USB-A…)

    • pizzahoe@lemm.eeOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      I own a MacBook Air now but prior to that I’ve used thinkpad, dell xps, Asus zenbook and hp envy lineups.

      If i were to ditch MacBook I’d have picked up a zenbook since they’re budget friendly, great oled screen, long battery life, lightweight and good build quality. You can even do casual gaming on it.

      The biggest thing i miss switching to mac has been losing my steam library and unable to play games with my friends.

    • randombullet@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      8
      ·
      1 year ago

      None that I’ve met. But that’s why they’re apple. They get to control everything on their hardware.

      But I’m happy running a framework 13 for a few business trips and I love it.

      Battery is not too amazing. Hitting only about 5-6 hours rather than the 8-10 that I truly want.

      • rastilin@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        1 year ago

        I’ve used Macs for a while, but I’d take Frameworks over Macs now. The fun at the start of having a mac is not worth all the hassles that come down the line when things start failing and can’t be fixed.

    • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      18
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Basically, none.
      A display is only as good, as the OS running it. Otherwise you’re seeing random, usually oversaturated shizzle.

      macOS is still the only, properly color-managed OS. (Usually running P3 displays)

      If you have a windows laptop with a display that’s not sRGB, you’re in for some “fun”, if you’re doing any sort of creative or design work.

      Edit: I’m getting downvoted because “apple bad >:(”?

        • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Is this what you are talking about? Yes.

          BUT.

          Can you turn it on?

          New feature in Windows 11 2022.

          As available as “full-self-driving-next-year”. Planned for 23H2.

          You have to be a “Windows insider” run beta-test version of windows, and set it up via .bat from github.

          That being said, I am a “windows insider” and I do run their beta-test OS, and I still don’t have that feature.

          I’ll believe it’s released and tested, because the quality of my works directly depends on it.

          It’s also going to be available for 12th+ gen iGPUs only, which means that any laptop running a wider-gamut built-in-monitor with an older iGPU can get fucked.

          I appreciate the ‘gotcha’ tone.

          • towerful@programming.dev
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            Hmm, fair.
            There is also the colour profile system.
            https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/about-color-management-2a2ed8fa-cf09-83c5-e55c-d1428519f616

            I just tested it on my computer. Installed the “driver” for my monitor, which then loaded the correct profile for it (changing from the “generic PnP” driver/profile to one for my specific model).
            It certainly changed the look of my monitor.
            I’ll have to test drive it a bit.

            But I guess it’s deeper than that, isn’t it.
            Like, if that sets the colour profile to sRGB, and I’m dealing with BT.2020… although that would be bonkers cause I don’t think sRGB can represent BT.2020.

            Color standards break my brain.

      • Bytemeister@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        Ελληνικά
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        No, you’re getting downvoted because you can buy non-apple laptops with quality screens. Also, you could just plug in a cheap monitor that is properly calibrated, or buy a nicer color correct monitor. Apple doesn’t have monopoly on color.

        • miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          MacOS does know how to handle colours, I’ll give 'em that.

          I just have no idea if Windows does it better, worse, or the same.

          • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            Windows is not a color-managed OS. It only manages a few applications, like “Photos”. The rest of color-management is done by separate applications, which is far from ideal.

            Linux had a chance to match macOS with Wayland, but blew it by not taking in constructive criticism and letting their egos dictate the features.

            Edit: If you’re going for a Windows laptop, just don’t get a laptop with a “wide-gamut” display. Go for a good sRGB screen and your life will be easier.

            • miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              1 year ago

              It just blows that everything Apple sells can only barely be repaired or upgraded, if at all.

              I can replace pretty much any part of my current laptop fairly easily, and I’d love to have something like that again.

              • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                1 year ago

                I don’t use Apple products, simply because of their crappy ethics and questionable product design. But that means I suffer in my day-to-day work-life thing. That, and I need a good GPU for rendering.

                Still, I’d ‘hackintosh’ everything and anything just because of color-management. :'(

                • miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  Was it Framework who sells nicely repairable devices? Maybe I’ll see if they have reasonably good screens, and use Adobe through a Windows VM. I’d prefer that over bare metal anyway.

                  I would hope that if I ever need a truly high end display, it’s going to be an employer who pays for it. One can hope.

                  • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Frameworks are very nice, but I’m waiting for them to crystalize a bit.

                    I would hope that if I ever need a truly high end display, it’s going to be an employer who pays for it. One can hope.

                    That still is a problem on both Windows and Linux. No matter what gamut your screen is, if the OS just sends nonsense to it, it’s just a colorful bestbuy “TV”.

                    While Adobe products use their own color-management, you’ll meet many problems in your day creative project management. And guess what, it’s always your fault!