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No surprises here. Just like the lockdown on iPhone screen and part replacements, Macbooks suffer from the same Apple’s anti-repair and anti-consumer bullshit. Battery glued, ssd soldered in and can’t even swap parts with other official parts. 6000$ laptop and you don’t even own it.

  • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
    1218·
    1 year ago

    Basically, none.
    A display is only as good, as the OS running it. Otherwise you’re seeing random, usually oversaturated shizzle.

    macOS is still the only, properly color-managed OS. (Usually running P3 displays)

    If you have a windows laptop with a display that’s not sRGB, you’re in for some “fun”, if you’re doing any sort of creative or design work.

    Edit: I’m getting downvoted because “apple bad >:(”?

      • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
        31·
        1 year ago

        Is this what you are talking about? Yes.

        BUT.

        Can you turn it on?

        New feature in Windows 11 2022.

        As available as “full-self-driving-next-year”. Planned for 23H2.

        You have to be a “Windows insider” run beta-test version of windows, and set it up via .bat from github.

        That being said, I am a “windows insider” and I do run their beta-test OS, and I still don’t have that feature.

        I’ll believe it’s released and tested, because the quality of my works directly depends on it.

        It’s also going to be available for 12th+ gen iGPUs only, which means that any laptop running a wider-gamut built-in-monitor with an older iGPU can get fucked.

        I appreciate the ‘gotcha’ tone.

        • towerful@programming.dev
          2·
          1 year ago

          Hmm, fair.
          There is also the colour profile system.
          https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/about-color-management-2a2ed8fa-cf09-83c5-e55c-d1428519f616

          I just tested it on my computer. Installed the “driver” for my monitor, which then loaded the correct profile for it (changing from the “generic PnP” driver/profile to one for my specific model).
          It certainly changed the look of my monitor.
          I’ll have to test drive it a bit.

          But I guess it’s deeper than that, isn’t it.
          Like, if that sets the colour profile to sRGB, and I’m dealing with BT.2020… although that would be bonkers cause I don’t think sRGB can represent BT.2020.

          Color standards break my brain.

    • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldΕλληνικά
      51·
      1 year ago

      No, you’re getting downvoted because you can buy non-apple laptops with quality screens. Also, you could just plug in a cheap monitor that is properly calibrated, or buy a nicer color correct monitor. Apple doesn’t have monopoly on color.

      • miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml
        1·
        1 year ago

        MacOS does know how to handle colours, I’ll give 'em that.

        I just have no idea if Windows does it better, worse, or the same.

        • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
          1·
          1 year ago

          Windows is not a color-managed OS. It only manages a few applications, like “Photos”. The rest of color-management is done by separate applications, which is far from ideal.

          Linux had a chance to match macOS with Wayland, but blew it by not taking in constructive criticism and letting their egos dictate the features.

          Edit: If you’re going for a Windows laptop, just don’t get a laptop with a “wide-gamut” display. Go for a good sRGB screen and your life will be easier.

          • miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml
            3·
            1 year ago

            It just blows that everything Apple sells can only barely be repaired or upgraded, if at all.

            I can replace pretty much any part of my current laptop fairly easily, and I’d love to have something like that again.

            • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
              2·
              1 year ago

              I don’t use Apple products, simply because of their crappy ethics and questionable product design. But that means I suffer in my day-to-day work-life thing. That, and I need a good GPU for rendering.

              Still, I’d ‘hackintosh’ everything and anything just because of color-management. :'(

              • miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml
                1·
                1 year ago

                Was it Framework who sells nicely repairable devices? Maybe I’ll see if they have reasonably good screens, and use Adobe through a Windows VM. I’d prefer that over bare metal anyway.

                I would hope that if I ever need a truly high end display, it’s going to be an employer who pays for it. One can hope.

                • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  Frameworks are very nice, but I’m waiting for them to crystalize a bit.

                  I would hope that if I ever need a truly high end display, it’s going to be an employer who pays for it. One can hope.

                  That still is a problem on both Windows and Linux. No matter what gamut your screen is, if the OS just sends nonsense to it, it’s just a colorful bestbuy “TV”.

                  While Adobe products use their own color-management, you’ll meet many problems in your day creative project management. And guess what, it’s always your fault!