It worked.

A piece of consumer electronics does not exist in a vacuum. Other models from other manufacturers are added and removed, affecting its value.

In my experience that only happened right before the new model was announced.

So, its value has reduced, or was it always overpriced?

I only noticed the € vs $ because I was searching for the case, so all good.

It’s telling that they continue to attract fines. I saw the ones you mentioned also but didn’t have the energy to start digging.

Despite assertions made to the contrary in this thread, I’m not at all convinced that they’re doing anything other than maximising shareholder value to the exclusion of all other considerations, including making a risk assessment in relation to paying fines versus compliance with the law.

Interesting, when you read that article, it says that Meta will appeal, searching for the GDPR fine and the appeal, all I found was more fines, but no records of the results of any appeals.

Also, it was €1.2 Billion, not $1.2 Billion.

Again, you vastly underestimate the size of Meta.

In the last quarter of 2024 it shows a net income of $20,838 million. A $20 million fine would change that 3 into a 1 and again, that’s net income for just for three months.

Source: https://investor.atmeta.com/investor-news/press-release-details/2025/Meta-Reports-Fourth-Quarter-and-Full-Year-2024-Results/default.aspx

Have you considered what is driving this change?

Looking from the sidelines, I think it’s all about money, specifically, how to make the development of Firefox sustainable. Yes, I’m aware of the cynical view that this is about lining the pockets of the CEO, I have no evidence for this.

I think that’s essentially caused by how we have licensed open source software and had limited resources to combat abuse at the industrial scale that silicon valley companies have monetized other people’s work.

Bruce Perens is attempting to erect “Post Open”, but I’m not yet sure if that is going to solve the fundamental issues.

Disclaimer: I’ve worked a little on the community standards document for the post open project.

What are the legal implications of hosting this information in a different jurisdiction and are there places where this data would be legally protected?

Think about it in terms of risk / reward or if you like, shareholder value.

If the value of the data exceeds the fine combined with the risk of it being discovered, the data will continue to exist.

Factor in the cost of actually guaranteeing that deleting something across all online, nearline, offline and archived data stores and the chances of anything being purposely deleted are not high.

Accidental data loss, sure, purposeful data loss, I can’t see it happening.

And?

I’m going with … never.

I’m familiar with Linux, having used it daily since 1999.

I’m referring to the research about tech workers thinking that MacOS is based on Linux.

An offline version with ads and no ability to store data locally sounds like an online version to me.

What I find more shocking about this assertion is that I have no facts to back it up, but I believe it, and I’m not surprised.

Of course someone here has a link to some actual research … right?

In 1989 I was one of the participants in the (then) Guinness World Record Endurance Computing held at the Hobby Computer Club days (HCC dagen) in the Netherlands.

The record was for 63.5 hours, but I had a two hour or so commute in each direction and the event started (from memory) at noon.

I’m guessing that I was awake in total for about 70 hours. I fell asleep on the way home.

We published a newsletter called “Elephant News” every few hours. Time keeping was managed by official time keepers and it was entered into the Guinness World Records in the 1990 book. I have a copy somewhere.

At some point not long after, Guinness abolished all world records that only had a time component and as far as I know it still stands :)

The Orange wants to turn it into a beach resort.

Some of them get elected to parliament.

mRNA vaccines do it for me at the moment.

https://www.genome.gov/about-genomics/fact-sheets/Understanding-COVID-19-mRNA-Vaccines

I used it for virtual machines and Docker containers.