Thanks the thing, when internet folks get riled up we can have a serious impact. Redditors have always been great at this – Restore the Fourth, the SOPA/PIPA protests in 2011 – and Lemmy and kbin can be a great vehicle.

They certainly fucked up, but it might well be OpenAI’s post too.

Two reasons the ongoing Reddit protests are important:

1. the protests keep the pressure on reddit and can lead to ongoing news coverage (which also keeps the pressure on reddit) . Otherwise, reddit will be able to spin the narrative “see? we told you it would just blow over and it did”

2. kbin, Lemmy, and other alternatives aren’t yet at the point where they’re ready for millions of redditors. For example, the modCoord post makes the important point that a lot of reddit’s moderation functionality isn’t accessible … but almost none of this functionality even exists yet on kbin and Lemmy. So most people aren’t going to leave yet.

Don’t get me wrong, leaving now is also a good option if you can find what you want elsewhere! But not everybody’s there yet.

#reddit #kbin #lemmy

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@nev Thanks!

@MyOpinion Totally agree, there’s some discussion at the end of the article on the need to improve moderation tools. Specifically for kbin and lemmy, I also talked about this in the Invest in moderation tools section of Don’t tell people “it’s easy”

@fediverse @fediverse @thenexusofprivacy

A valid concern – and a good point on the nested list item!

thanks!

I know, it’s amazing Ernest is getting any sleep at all!

Agreed, great idea. Maybe a code bounty for this?

Ernest says he’s definitely interested in accessbility – he replied when I originally posted “Don’t tell people “it’s easy”, and six more things Kbin, Lemmy, and the fediverse can learn from Mastodon”, which has a section on accessibility. But there are a heck of a lot of other priorities so boosting this would be very helpful.

Here’s a post from @weirdwriter noting that kbin’s fairly good for accessibility. but I know there are some problems – here’s a bug I filed last week.

Yes they do! I clicked on the #mosstadon hashtag and it took me to https://kbin.social/tag/mosstadon just as one would hope!

I know it’s on their list, not sure where it’ll get prioritized. I shared a link to kbinMeta with beehaw.org’s list of needed moderation functionality, which applies to kbin as well, but so far the only comment is “jesus christ, here we go again with all this blocking bullshit”. 🤣

https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/37130/Beehaw-s-mod-tool-needs-Useful-for-KBin-as-well-Discuss

Exactly!!!

I just talked with the person who’s running https://kilioa.org/ and it isn’t ready for a major influx of users, please take it off the list for now!

Agreed all around … although I’d add that the probability that a critical mass of users will leave is quite low in the short term.

yeah really … I’m flashing!!!