Whilst I’m sure the study is well written and we do need to research information like this, I have one side comment to make because one always sees news like this and I think it gives people/corps some kind of get out of jail card for doing anything useful to halt climate change.

How about, crazy fucking idea here, companies get regulated to perform more sustainable manufacturing practices?? Just an idea.

Hey, I want to say (so that you know more about our wee island cause I love it) its the province of Ulster (or Ulster province). Slieve League’s county is Donegal. Anyways, I hope you had a great time!

True, not the first and definitely not the last. But (realistically) the fediverse is still in it’s infancy.

Decentralization is not what makes it weak, it makes it strong, but allowing facebook and trying to keep the decentralised voice is like asking a baby to fight a lion.

Facebook is a known bad actor, they can’t be trusted to join the fediverse. They are a wolf in sheeps clothing.

Again, not an equal comaprison. You see all federated content in from the fediverse, you don’t have to subscribe in order to eventually see it when it is specifically sent to you. Also, I don’t subscribe to a single mailing list for anything, willing to be many others don’t.

And yes it benefits from creators content but not for profit. I would argue creators (often) will get as much out of there content being posted to the fediverse by the attention it garners them. In comparison to whenever creators’ content is posted to facebook with (often) no credit only for facebook to make the lions share of profit on that.

All this along with Facebook’s (yeah sure, say meta if you want but to me that was just PR to try to gloss over there super shit public perception) extremely poor track record on privacy, controlling mis-information (everyone seems to forget Cambridge Analytica scandal) etc. etc. and no Facebook/Meta should not be allowed anywhere near the Fediverse if we want it to be an enjoyable place on the internet.

Then go ahead to threads tbh, too many times now has some amazing things on the internet been absolutely fucking ruined by a company or by it becoming a business.

Enough with companies being involved with everything.

Not quite the same. Emails are for messages and communication between individuals, not an open internet forum with the idea of allowing people to converse and discuss freely. Its an attempt to bring back the internet golden age IMO. Allowing threads to federate opens the door to them benefiting from the content and work of the rest of the fediverse for free. This would be fine for a non scummy company, but meta will use this opportunity in the worst ways to gain power, influence, and money that they don’t deserve. All the best of the fediverse (lemmy/kbin/mastodon) was made with FOSS principles in mind, bringing people together, letting everyone have a voice, not paywalling or involving money in absolutely everything. The only reason Facebook is here for is to make profit. We should not let them

I second this, the NI/RoI/EU situation with threads is proof to me that they are for sure doing threads for only the most shady/coporately greedy reasons.

The fediverse isnt ready for widespread/user adoption. Not everything has to grow exponentially overnight (this is a big problem with modern culture IMO).

Let the fediverse develop naturally and healthily, it will shine on its own in time.

OK so im confused about this, I thought the idea of the fediverse is that people could have viewed or posted here from both mastodon or lemmy or kbin based apps?