I don’t think either is acceptable. But other animals have to accept it from us, and we would have to accept it from the aliens. Ultimately it would be up to aliens to determine what happens because they hold all the power, just as if other animals are ever going to achieve liberation it will be because of humans changing, not themselves, which is unfortunate.

I keep seeing the sentiment in this thread that if you go to prison you basically deserve whatever happens to you, which is a fucked up stance in itself, but more importantly:

Why do the cows, chickens, etc. deserve to suffer because someone is in prison? Does that make sense in any moral framework? How would you feel if we bagged random people not guilty of anything and forced prisoners to watch them tortured “on their behalf” as a form of punishment? That’s pretty much the same situation ethically and everyone would agree it’s fucked up.

This reminds me of the graphs from Brass Eye.

Thunder Perfect Mind or Divorce Lawyers I Shaved My Head.