The Reddit Protest Is Finally Over. Reddit Won.::Reddit corporate claims victory over its disgruntled mods as r/aww, r/pics, and r/videos abandon the “John Oliver rule.”
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Bullshit. Nobody, or at least very few people, expected Reddit to revert the changes. A protest can be successful even if it doesn’t lead to immediate change. I was here on Lemmy long before the API nonsense happened over at Reddit, and the difference over here is night and day. Lemmy has been around for awhile, but until these last few months it couldn’t hold a candle to Reddit in terms of content or activity. Maybe it still can’t, but now it has enough users to be viable. Reddit might go on like nothing happened, but in the background a competitor has been born.
I migrated from Reddit. Most of the communities I followed would be hours or days between posts (if they were not private). Everything left was just not pleasant.
I am still fumbling around here but for the most part it is has better discussions and people seem less rude.
I do not regret leaving at this time. I am sure my infinitesimal presence or lack there of does not bother Reddit, but it made me feel better.
Less rude? Fuck you.
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Eat shit pal!
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That’s it! I’m blocking everyone in this entire thread.
Ahhh, home
Haha. Thank you for setting me straight.
Yeah, when I have looked at reddit recently I have observed that mostly the conversation is terrible. There is definitely more content than on Lemmy, but I also like talking to people who speak in entire sentences.
“Posts” and “content” are not the same. Most recent Reddit posts are not content. Few people left, but the ones that left were the content creators and moderators. Reddit, the platform, is dead, and Reddit, the social media, wears its skin.
I have enjoyed differing viewpoints with reasons, or examples included. I feel this helps promote continued engagement of the topic especially when presented without hostility.
Same here. I think that the only thing that I can do now to add something of value is to participate in good and respectful discussions while sharing content that I genuinely like. A grain of salt ends up adding to a mountain they say.
Just think how thirsty you will be when you reach the top of that mountain!
I deleted 16 years worth of my ‘content’ across 6 handles and moved to Lemmy/kbin. When I do go back to check on Reddit, it’s easy to see that many of the better contributors are gone, the quality of comments and posts, as well as the voting on posts, has greatly diminished. Some subs barely have anything in their ‘new’ queues.
Thanks. I’m happy for no ads no boys
Edit *no bots
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no boys
What are you, some kinda ultra feminist?
No boys, only men.
No boys, only femboys
I’ve made the switch over and Lemmy feels perfectly viable and improving very quickly especially with the third party app devs working on supporting Lemmy. Reddit won’t die but it looks like it’ll stagnate, whereas Lemmy has got a brighter future.
A multitude of competitors.
“Me with my little home server”
It was to be expected, but I found Lemmy because of everything that happened, uninstalled Reddit, and now use Mastodon and Lemmy as my social media platforms of choice, so it’s a personal win.
Hopefully, as Lemmy continues to thrive, instances hold up to the pressure of growth and we see an influx of content that made Reddit so valuable to users and Reddit corporate alike.
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A toxic relationship where I kept begging for just one more hit. So glad I’ve found Lemmy.
Yep, same for me. There are are dozens of us. DOZENS.
You’re not alone, the growth stats of several instances show that thousands of us did the same move. I now only use Reddit when I search error codes at work and an old reddit post has the answer. It’s gone from my phone and I’ve been on lemmy since the day Apollo was murdered
They didn’t win, they just didn’t fail as badly some had hoped. What was accomplished was spreading out a fair portion of their user base. Maybe not a huge percentage of it, but enough that they don’t have the same level of monopoly. People are more aware of other options (and Reddit’s flaws), and more will depart in time.
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Reddit assisted their competition. Lemmy use doubled.
Doubled? I see posts with user engagement and it’s a wall. Low, low, low, and then boom, astronomical.
It’s still a drop in the ocean for reddit and the people who left (or just spend less time on it) were never the target audience of this “new course”. Reddit will be just fine.
I’d argue a lot of the people who actually add value and produce content (for fun, rather than for profit) have left or want to. And those people are what grew reddit in the first place by making it somewhere worth going.
Perhaps reddit will end up just like all those sites that just repost shit from reddit… Except it won’t be reddit anymore.
I’m not sure I’d call it a drop, Reddit has a large number of users yes, but most of those are not active users (post or participate daily.)
And that is not touching the massive number of bots that just recycle old content and mass upvote or downvote when they see keywords to drive a narrative.
Reddit isn’t gonna collapse any day now, but what remains now is a lot of rot. What actual users are left are likely going to notice and start to migrate away towards alternatives with actual user interaction and not just a series of bots and trolls spewing the same predictable results.
Haha dude, I was a MAJOR contributor on Reddit. I spent HOURS each day posting fresh new content for people to read on various subreddits.
Drop in an ocean or not, if all the content creators stop doing it, the content stops.
Imagine YouTube without LinusTechTips, or Hollywood without any actors. They are, as you say “a drop in the bucket”, a tiny percentage of overall YouTube users.
But that doesn’t matter because most people on Reddit and TV viewers, are passive consumers. The statistics showed that less than one half of users were actually logged in, and a third or less ever posted anything (non-comments).
Trust me, Reddit is hurting. They haven’t won. They think they’ve won but that’s just shock and adrenaline before it wears off.
The users are the content, and if they all leave, there’s nothing left. Digg and MySpace know this.
Imagine YouTube without LinusTechTips
Most of my YT usage is watching music videos or random clips. I don’t think I ever watched LinusTechTips, or any other vlogger, on purpose for that matter so it would remain the same for me. People use platforms in different ways for them.
Yeah I was a big contributor too. Doesn’t matter if they cease to exist, as long as I get enough joy out of Lemmy and contribute back in return
And let’s face it. Even if they only lost 3% or whatever of their user base to Lemmy, it was definitely the coolest, smartest, best-looking 3%.
“the coolest, smartest, best-looking”
Crap, I didn’t realize there were prereqs…
Well put. I think there was permanent damage done to user’s trust, but don’t see many of the smaller subreddit communities migrating away yet.
I worry that Lemmy is even more an echo chamber with a handful of default communities, I hope it grows to the point where I don’t feel obligated to join the popular communities so there is actual content to scroll through.
Me reading this from lemmy
In my eyes Gizmodo is not seeing the big picture. The protest didn’t kill reddit, but that was not a realistic outcome to begin with. However it significantly hurt reddit and helped push lemmy as an alternative. Reddit will be around for a long time, until lemmy has more widespread adaptation. It’s the beginning of the end for reddit and they’ll experience that with a disaster ipo
Lemmy actually feels like a viable alternative now with apps like Sync upping the experience. Seems like Reddit literally shot itself in the foot by kicking 3rd party apps to competition.
The number of folks interacting too is such a night and day difference. I dabbled in some lemmy instances before all this but never stuck around being there just wasn’t much going on.
Lemmy appears to be financially stable due to user donations. Reddit relies on investors and monetizing users.
I bet, if we keep donating like we need, and the code iterates and works… this place can be hopping. I’d like quality to not suffer, but there will be more options as population increases.
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I’d love to learn there’s a LemmyPi version…
I’d still want to support the larger project, but the idea of having my own, stable, federated how I want… that would be cool.
Not sure a RPi4 has what’s needed, however.
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This is not a zero sum game. I benefitted by finding Lenny and Lenny benefited from an influx of users.
Reddit hurt its self by damming the social contract with mods. That doesn’t help Lenny.
That isn’t a win, but reddit aren’t going away either.
It’s Lemmy, not Lenny.
Did they win, though? Everybody who actually cared left. It was clear in June that they were going to do whatever the hell they wanted to regardless of what anyone did or said.
The real test of win/lose is if they are able to turn a profit
I’d be surprised if they could. They’re copying Elon, after all.
So the next move will be to rename the site to a single letter of the alphabet.
R
Y
B
They haven’t in 10 years, I wouldn’t hold my breath.
The FED & BCE jack’s the cost of borrowing money, so once a “I just borrow more it’s basically free” now it’s “those dollars gotta bring money in or we’re bust”.
Interesting times for Reddit…
Long term.
No, short term. Spez is looking to sell, he doesn’t care how it looks after the sale goes through.
Agree, he is straight up destroying the site for the IPO and will bail the second he can cash out
Reddit won? Good for them. I’m still not going back.
The incredible thing about these articles is that they don’t make the slight mention of lemmy.
That one linked is a well written summary of what happened, but it’s partial if they don’t include the migration that happened, even if it wasn’t that big.
Now that you’ve noticed the PR industry, you may realize that basically every article is fawning of its subjects in this way these days
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I’m here and I have an ad-free, troll-free, wholesome community to engage with on mostly the same topics I followed on Reddit. I declare myself the winner
I read that as toll free and was wondering if I was missing something.
Yah, too early in the morning for me!
I didn’t realize I had misread that till I read your comment. It’s late here.
Nobody cares though. The reddit administration has dethroned their own site, it will never gain that back. They’re done, even if the site hangs around like a bad smell for a few more years.
Reddit won against its own users, the very people it relies on to stay relevant. In doing so, it showed a large number of users they don’t need reddit.
As the Lemmy apps get better, more and more people will check out the ad-free reddit. We can get their content without needing their platform, which is huge.
Reddit won the battle, but will it win the war?
I have never seen so many fight videos and politics on the front page. Reddit has completely lost its sense of humor and is basically a Facebook feed.
Reddit won at building its own viable competitors like Kbin, Lemmy, and Squabbles and all the users of those platforms also won big from Reddit’s hubris. The one thing I know for sure is that they have grown Lemmy by 7000%, and that’s nothing to sneeze at.
Time will tell what happens to Reddit.
Really‽ I just checked and many of the small subreddits I used to follow became much less interesting/active if not dead.
Meanwhile, some of the bigger subs became a repost dumping ground of years old posts/images/videos/memes by fairly new accounts (i’m guessing those are bots karma farming).
The fediverse is the much better way IMHO.
In any case, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit have become too toxic to use I will keep away (though, I never had a Facebook nor a Twitter account)
First I want to say hurray at the interrobang I love seeing them in the wild!
Secondly, I recently started doing research about Electric Vehicles and made another account for reddit to ask questions. I…forgot how much of a difference it was between Reddit and Lemmy when it came to discussion. There’s so much aggression on Reddit it’s crazy.
I joined a few EV groups on Facebook for the first time in years and it was nasty there too, not to mention my feed was full of shit I didn’t even ask for.
I think I’m good here.
Interesting. The small subreddits I follow either moved or are just as active. Most are just as active.
I’d like to spend more time here, but Lemmy is still attracting enough people to support a lot of the small subreddits I follow.
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it feels like a biased, paid and made up news for spez’s money to try and revive this hole of a website. most of r/all posts are repost bots, as well as comments in them.
A huge tech company paying another big tech company to stroke it’s digital cock?
Never!
Sadly, for some they will believe it and feel defeated and return to reddit thinking it’s true, and watch as reddit becomes the Facebook/Myspace of this era.
How nice it will be if the IPO is an absolute disaster!
I can’t use a mobile browser to view most content on Reddit anymore due to one of the changes to the site. I get a bunch of prompts to log in or verify my age or something that can only be removed by switching my browser to desktop mode.
This basically ensures that I won’t ever use Reddit because I do most of my doom scrolling on mobile when I’m bored.
I think today I’ll investigate one of the means of automatically changing all of my comments to fuck spez and then delete my account.
