A lot of transphobic people say things like “Trans people shouldn’t undergo surgeries and hormones to fix what they’re going through!” and what not, but I’ve come to a realization. They’re not saying this out of a genuine desire to help trans people, and I’ve used this “four point method” with every transphobe who says this to catch them using “caring about the well-being of people” as a bad faith op to disguise their pushes for just hating trans people.

  1. On what basis can you assert that gender dysphoria SHOULD NOT be treated by medical transition?

  2. By extension, do you know HOW to execute said treatment from a medical professional perspective?

  3. If no to number 2, circle back to number 1 and question your basis again.

  4. If yes to number 2, why are you harassing people online about your solutions instead of proposing it to medical communities (which would be infinitely more useful)?

Most transphobes I hit with this are not even able to get past the first question in any rhetorically coherent manner, if at all.

Of course, you act accordingly to how each transphobe answers, but at that point, it’s easy because transphobia isn’t rational. It’s entirely based on emotions and fears.

I emphasize that you’re supposed to use logic to come to a conclusion; not the other way around.

Transphobes just so happen to have already preemptively made a conclusion on trans people on the basis of emotions, but they realize that said conclusion won’t hold up in a genuine case of rhetoric (because of how emotionally charged it is), so they embarrassingly try to attach a logical explanation for their bigotry after the fact of them concluding that being trans is bad, so watch them grasp at straws and argue from incredulity as you ask them these four questions.

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  • frogman [he/him]@beehaw.org
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    just to add, inflammatory people aren’t interested in ‘debate’ and that goes for both sides of an argument. chances are, you have no intention to change your position and neither do they. and that’s fine. but a person should realise that at best, you’re wasting your time. at worst, you’re equipping them with more ways to argue with the next person who may not be as secure as you are. if you’re debating, aim to change the perspectives of onlookers. don’t do it without an audience unless the person you’re talking to is truly discussing in good faith.

    it’s still good to learn these things so that you can recognise patterns when people discuss this stuff with you. if someone is discussing trans healthcare and brings up the ‘dangers’ of a medical transition, chances are they’re uneducated and you should move on. or, if there’s an audience you think you can reach, stage the discussion and cater it to them.

    approaching these things from a winning/losing perspective can also be damaging to you, let’s try to be healthy in our discussions :p

    idk too much, if im being ignorant let me know coooooool

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        As a certified pickle lover and a transfem on spiro at that, you better watch yourself.

        (I unironically believe in pickle supremacy. They’re the best vegetable, and they belong on everything. Yes, including pizza.)

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        Life is full of grey areas, not everything has to be a black and white debate. Except how gross pickles are. If you like pickles you are wrong.

        It never ceases to amaze me how different people’s senses of taste are.