I agree. Discord and other shitty chat apps are some of the most useless, privacy destroying apps available right now. There is literally no use for them because we have Matrix and IRC. It just sucks that so many people bought into their huge pile of shit that unless you want to give up your social life, it is basically unaviodable.
You may not like Discord, but is not “shitty” or “useless”. Attitudes like this are precisely what discourage people from switching to alternatives.
Totally agree. Such comments really don’t help anyone…
I dislike Discord as a company and as a platform, but the service is pretty decent and if you fail to see the appeal it has for the average user, then you’re deceiving yourself.
Discord is worse than useless since it’s making the world a worse place than if it didn’t exist. Are there silver linings to it, have good things happened because of it? Maybe. But the drawbacks significantly outweigh the good.
And lets not forget about XMPP 💛
Yes, please!
"It is important for free software to use free software infrastructure "
https://drewdevault.com/2022/03/29/free-software-free-infrastructure.html
at least have a matrix bridge
Someone tell this to gamers.
Gamers don’t even seem to be the main issue… they mostly use it as a voice-chat app to replace Teamspeak/Ventrilo and will happily move to something else if Discord ever decides to try and monetize their service (hopefully by then Mumble will work well in the browser).
The bigger problem are people like the Rust community that do all their development communication though Discord and will be totally vendor locked in the future.
if Discord ever decides to try and monetize their service
What. Discord is monetized.
Lol, not even close. They are still burning through investor funds AFAIK.
They were making $130 million two years ago. They’re gonna do anything beyond just add on to their current system.
What are their expenses?
They have more than 600 staff and just got another half billion USD in VC funding. I highly doubt that they actually make a profit right now, but there are no good public figures on that.
servers and programmers. neither are free.
I’m about to generalize…
Gamers don’t have it in them to care about the nuance of privacy, or their future well being. Just look at them, the console gamers buy into a dystopian walled garden, and PC gamers aren’t too far behind, dealing with Microsoft’s control subverting spyware of an operating system. I don’t see this group making smart moves for themselves.
#notallgamers don’t @ me.
IMO gamers are like this because, throughout the years, they have been slowly desensitized through more and more agressive practices: starting with “please don’t redistribute” and ending with literal rootkits
What do you think about Fosscord?
Does that service violate Discord’s ToS?
I’ll try it. I’m also selfhosting revolt which is trying to be an open source replacement for discord
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Platform inertia sucks
Discord is a great for tech illiterate folks, but a FOSS project should go for Matrix or similar’