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    It’s so awesome seeing all these new people here bailing from reddit. Welcome!

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    Left because any form of critique gets you a ban. People rather look away from problems so they can say they don’t see any.

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    I got banned from my city’s subreddit for calling out racism and within minutes was then banned 3 other Canadian subreddits.

    The Russkies seem to have a stranglehold on our social media platforms

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    Everybody upvote Luigi content! Get banned! Leave reddit! Reddit crumbles! Fuck reddit! Go Luigi! Lemmy grows! Centralized social media dies! I eat a burrito. That last one wasn’t really on topic, but it’s happening anyways! I’m hungry.

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        I got permabanned a couple weeks ago for saying “the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi”

        Like, why are you defending Nazis, spez? Huh?

        It solidified Lemmy as my permanent reddit replacement. No ragrets.

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          I got permabanned for reporting hateful comments on a r/conservative post that was glorifying Nazis a few weeks ago. No warning. Been on Reddit for over a decade without causing any problems. Sounds like Reddit as a corporation has picked a side

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            They picked a side when they let a bunch of fash shit slide on T_D in the run up to 2016. No surprise though-- tech bros rarely have a working moral compass

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              and they allow r/conservative constantly hit the front page now, when it almost never did prior to the election.,

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                And it’s so much worse now with how many sub comments and posts that sub has. It’s painfully obvious they’ve replaced even the most devout users with autogenerated agenda posts. That place is some of the most obvious propaganda I’ve seen on the internet

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            same thing happened to me, but on a different sub. “they said report abuse is not allowed” so i was temp ban on a technology sub, funny enough. and it just triggered a full sitewide ban for all my other accts with little warning.(im pretty sure the temp suspension was going to get perma banned down the line, because i heard other used got banned sitewide after thier temp ban ended for no reason at all, which was caused by an error on thier part which they refused to do anything.) basically if you been temp banned the filters on subs dont reset so it detects you as a ban evader if you comment on the sub again, even if you are in the clear.

            alSO IF the mod doesnt like you reporting someone they will lecture you and ban you for “report abuse”.

            i found out mods do not want to deal with large query of “reports” from users so they get lazy and they autoban, or ban people just to not have to do anything about the person being reported. in case the accts gets a repeal, they will make an excuse up to admins why they banned someone.

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              Reddit mods can’t see who reported things, only that something was reported. I used to be the head mod for a 1M+ sub. The admins can see that though, and mods can forward reports to the admins for review.

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                they must be getting the identity of the reporter from the admins, if the mods are nosey enough. im guessing thats how they got some of my accts that way. but a couple times on different subs, the mods personally messaged the ban message" and ranted why the other user wasnt reportable"

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            If you post on r/conservative they will actually stalk you and look through your posts to report stuff … but you report them and that is ok.

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            ahhh that’s what happened to me then. I just randomly got banned one day and I think it was reporting a conservative post for hate or something

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          I got banned a few weeks back for an anti-trump post.

          That account was 11 years old and I was very active over those years. But nope. Don’t talk smack about the orange god.

          It solidified Lemmy as my permanent reddit replacement. No ragrets.

          100% agree

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            reddit has been sliding right wing for a while, 90% of the posts are about trump, and not really the important things hes doing behind the scenes, just “reaction posts” of trumps gaffes. reddit is also sustaining X social media too with thier posts.

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          I got permabanned like two years ago for quoting “eat the rich” by Aerosmith. Also suggesting we should eat the rich. Several times. They also permabanned everyone on my wifi. I did the entire household a service.

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              I use 4G for my home internet, my IP address changes so frequently. Always thought IP bans were kinda dumb, certainly permanent ones. Maybe throw a week long one on so they don’t immediately create a new account but past that their address has almost certainly changed.

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        Same. I used Reddit for 12 years. Got perma-banned last year for saying things about Israel that people didn’t like, I guess.

        Moved to lemmy.

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          The thing is said last summer that got me permabanned was “international law states that occupied indigenous populations have a right to resist occupation and fight back by any means possible” reddit has an aversion to facts as do all conservatives and their fellow neo liberal boot lickers

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          If it’s anything but fasc or bootlicker content, they’ve been trying to ban it.

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          i said something about israel on worldnews at the start of the gaza conflict, site wide suspension for 7 days, i largely abandoned that acct, and went witha throwaway(and mostly avoided that sub). then i was banned last month with the throwaway triggered a multi-ban.

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        5 of my accts were banned last month, all at once. one got temp suspended, and a triggered a sitewide ban for the others for some "reason. theres no reason to ban all others when it was just temp suspended. but they went extra out of thier way(any old and new accts that have years of seperation between a subreddit ban(if they dint get banned immediately after getting sub banned) they banned accounts.

        ex, i had 2 unused accts 5+years, and 1 recent temp suspension(then they look at other accts you were per banned from a subreddit in, and banned all of them). i had also a couple of unused throwaways that i started using from years ago(last month), and a semi-new acct that i use just in case of a ban that i dint use for 90days. and then 1 acct strictly used for 1 subreddit.

        only 1 survived but its still flagged by reddit, but have no ban on it right now. creating mroe than 1 acct just puts people at risk of getting banned.

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      Already got permabanned for saying he was justified, I like it better here anyway

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        I got banned but their site is so shit the links to the message you got banned for never work. Been banned/warned enough times it’s not a one off either.

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      i pointed out the censoring of luigi news in dec, and people actually believed that wasnt happening, and having all that trump rage post slop thats been posting in order to astroturf luigi news.

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      not surprising, on another site/forum where reddit users got banned for upvoting in attempt to mimic human activity on reddit to promote thier of accts later down the line, thats whats been happening. they are using some technical tricks trying to get around these bans, but reddit is quickly closing those gaps, thats why thier bans have been so aggressive lately. they overmoderate, and overbanned recently.

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    This is my first comment from Lemmy. Thanks again to whomever suggested it.

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    Well, exactly the same can and is happening on specific Lemmy servers too.

    One of the vegan instances bans you if you downvote anything that speaks in favour of veganism. Not that I just do this out of spite, but there was this time where a thread about vegan cat food gained traction and I downvoted some comments that were really borderline. Ban within an hour.

    Same on that notorious star trek instance. Go ahead and put some downvotes on Discovery related posts, it will also earn you a temporary ban.

    So let’s not pretend that it’s only big bad reddit doing this.

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      I got banned from a vegan group once because I responded to a person talking about how “non-vegans must be sociopaths to not care about all the suffering of animals as they scream in pain” or something like that. I responded with a link to a study that plants do in fact scream when being injured. We just can’t hear it. Apparently they didn’t like that, lol.

      Edit to add: I didn’t just respond with a link. But something like “As much as I appreciate veganism I am not sure what to tell you. Because if avoiding screaming and suffering in your food source is the reason you became vegan I do have some bad news <link>”

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        Plants do not have a central nervous system to process pain and even if they did “feel pain” you’re still eating more of them by eating animal products…

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          Fair enough. Turns out while every single news article reporting on the plant scream study talks about it as “pain”, the scientists themselves made no such claims. Merely calling it “stress” in plants.

          Thank you for giving me a reasonable response that made me look into it further and educated me - the way I feel like would have been beneficial initially instead of what actually happened in that vegan group.

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          you’re still eating more of them by eating animal products…

          not necessarily. we mostly feed livestock parts of plants we don’t or can’t eat. so while spinach is human-edible, the spinach fed to chickens is not handled in a way that keeps it safe for human consumption. by feeding it to livestock, we are conserving resources.

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      I feel like there’s a difference between various moderators power-tripping on their own little fiefdoms, and a site wide policy.

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        A little, sure, but from my point of view (which you are happy to disagree with), very little.

        Personally I am a big Star Trek fan. I was stoked to see there is an actual dedicated Lemmy server for it, with many communities focused around everything Star Trek. But I disagree with their admin/moderation so much I had to change my account to another server. At some point ended up blocking the whole instance because I just cannot keep myself to just reading what others are posting.

        So even if I can use another server, I cannot use those communities. Similar if I were a vegan and would not agree with what some of the more extreme users are posting.

        There are not many active alternatives for these communities on Lemmy.

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          I think your experience highlights the main difference, the ability to leave an instance and disengage with authoritarian assholes without having to leave Lemmy. On reddit your only options are to leave or comply.

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          You can make your own alternatives, that’s the difference. If you think the mods/admins of those comms/instances aren’t doing well, then you could do better yourself. That’s the freedom that the fediverse gives you. You could not do the same on Reddit.

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        Good point. The other important difference is that on Lemmy you can jump to a different server. Once you get banned on Reddit, that’s it.

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        its sickening how they pretend to care about animals and nature by being vegan yet its just egotripping and blatant animal abuse. If they actually care about animals they should be the first ones denouncing vegan cat food.

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          It’s already bad enough that a lot of dry cat food in the market has grain (and the high cost of grainless alternatives) to even considering giving vegan food to a cat pffff.

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              Really? I give my cats dry food, but there’s no grain in it, all meat. Expensive, but worth it!

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                That reduces diabetes risk, but not CKD risk.

                Cats evolved from desert dwellers and often don’t like drinking water, they rarely do so in nature and get most of their liquids from their food. If a cat only eats dry food and doesn’t drink enough kidney disease is just an inevitability. Of our 3 cats only one of them drinks water regularly.

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                  Interesting. Well, I can confirm that my cats drink water, and a lot of it! One is nearly 13, the other 4, and they both drink multiple times per day.

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        Yeah. I’m a vegan and I took issue with that. Sure we can do scientific studies to see how cats do on vegan diets, but imo that further propels cat domestication which vegans should be against at the very beginning. We already subject cats and other pets to environments that aren’t natural to their genetic history. And now vegans are introducing foods that aren’t natural, even though taking cats off streets can be seen as the more ethical thing to do, given the alternatives.

        Lots of nuance here, but it’s not fair to the cats. Any time vegans think for themselves instead of the real victims of animal slavery, they undermine their entire cause.

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        cant believe that show went on five seasons, and it got worst every season too, and the obvious objective kurtzman was evident by season 4(female leads were the only sex left on the cast), the only likable characther, was michelle yeohs performance(you can see the acting is better than the others). Picard also was like that(the show couldve been good if done right, but picard(patrick stewart) seemed too low energy for the show.

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        Never seen but just cause I am in edgy mood today: discovery is utter garbage. They should pay hefty health insurance to anyone who has seen it to cover therapy costs and eye surgery.

        It’s so garbage that the dump trucks drivers get confused and arrive at people living rooms if they turn it on.

        The only fitting spot for it is inside the latrine but wash it out as carefully after putting this shitty thing down the drain as if it was an especially nasty hangover poop

        That was quite pleasurable to write

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          I think what pissed me off most with Discovery was them stealing that Tardigrade storyline from a videogame and then fighting the poor game developer down to the last in court. Also, that storyline made no sense for Star Trek.

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          same here, never saw the series, just enough of the clips to know the seasons go through obvious cycle, evident of many other people posted, a big convoluted “danger” that ends up in the last episode of a season which is a letdown. rinse and repeat, also kurtzmans go-to for ignoring the criticisms by fans of previous seasons, by dropping the arc of the last season entirely, additionally. both picard and STD have lifted material they read on memory alpha and memory beta(non canon) wiki, which the NOVELS are part of.

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            I don’t know but I know that hating on franchises isn’t worth my effort nowadays aside from some short dopamine burst now and then. I have learned with Last Jedi that panta rhei and all, I can always have my own head canon which is mostly EU and TCW 2008 and maybe some other thing I like.

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        It had its moments, but everytime id start to like it theyd pull some shit that south park would make fun of

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      Plus side here is that people can move to another instance and start commenting right away as opposed to being shadow banned for a period in certain subs and having to build up enough karma to not automatically have every comment flagged.

      People aren’t stuck to the policies of instances they don’t agree with whether it be reasons for bans or what instances are blocked or whitelisted.

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      The motives behind the actions of these groups are vastly different though. A corporation silencing anti-establishment speech is not equivalent to lemmy moderators abusing authority in their micro-feifdoms. Still frustrating of course but the reasons and effects are quite different

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        True, can’t argue with that. I am maybe a bit too pragmatic when I say, I don’t care about the difference because the outcome for me as a user is the same.

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      Lemmy even has the option to disable downvotes, so they’re obviously using downvotes as some kind of purity test.

      Side note, there should be a way to soft block certain instances so you can see and interact with its federated posts but not send anything to the instance itself. You want to limit open discussion on your instance? Fine, but everyone else is still going to talk about you.

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      Yes, but that is like being banned on a specific Reddit. You didnt follow the rules. Reddit will ban you from the entire platform.

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      It’s enough to just make new account every couple months

      It’s a good practice anyway. Fresh start every month feels good. Privacy is much better this way on such transparent site as Lemmy. You reset any mutes/bans/fame you might have acquired. It’s win-win

      +It’s not like Lemmy has some kind of insane profile customisation fluff or account bound rewards

      Also remember to have a unique username for each site for best doxx protection. I use this Osint site sometimes for lulz and there are people who have same PayPal id (with real name shown) as their Lemmy account name lol. Lemmy may be tame but if you browse any deep chan sites opsec is of paramount and admins are hostile actors deep down there too that WILL post your data. Here I kinda trust admins just a little so that accidental true IP reveal seems like no big deal.

      However one day you may sign up to the wrong instance or instance may change hands and someone may post your data to some chan like alt right pit. This is a danger of entrusting your account to small private operators that are complete strangers with unknown motivations

      Never ever use your true email on Lemmy

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        See my other comment. That is not really the solution since you will simply get banned again after a while, depending on how much you interact there. Unless admin/moderation changes, making a new account just gives you a bit of extra time using those communities.

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      Its decentalised nature doesn’t get you removed from the whole network though unlike Reddit. You can always interact with other instances.

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      at least here its more easy to just let them stew with eachother or for more sensible part of that community to just break off. in reddit its the site owner who ultimately decided how the site goes, here its the community itself. Though if majority of some community decides to just stick with some awful group, its quite bad for the minority that doesnt like the awfullness. But at least that is problem of our own making instead of what something some rich asshole decided and thus we can solve it ourselves too if we really want to. There is no way to unshittify reddit ever.

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      It’s way easier to do with Lemmy compared to Reddit. Because of its federated design, it’s trivial to subscribe to a stream of all activity in a community (posts, comments, upvotes, downvotes, moderation actions, etc) and do things when particular actions happen. Unlike Reddit, on Lemmy you can get a list of who upvoted or downvoted a post or comment.

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        Which I don’t have a problem with. Having vastly different moderation policies can create a walled garden, but there are instances where a walled garden is just preferable. See how askhistorians was handled. It’s better to have a platform that you can shape to your needs and the potential needs of your users. If it’s truly useless, then nobody would use it

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      Fr seeing in the modlog that people are regularly getting banned from parts of the fediverse for innocuous shit like “chronic downvoting” is so disappointing.

      Imo however you do or do not hit the little arrow buttons should never have any bearing on your account or standing, at all.

      I don’t even understand why mods/admins have access to see how people are voting, fuck that bullshit.

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      if someone does that post it in yepowertrippinbastards and make a new sub on a different instance, id join, ppl can be made aware here

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      Yes, Lemmyverse will fragment, so it’s important to choose sufficiently permissive instances or even run your own.

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      gross, even STD is being defended here, who is paying for these shills. nutrek is such a badly written/show franchise right now.

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    reddit will warn users who repeatedly upvote calls for a violent revolution against the billionaire class and the fascist neo feudalist militarized police state enforced wage slavery and rent till death economics they have created to benefit their endless growth driven profits while ignoring upvotes of content that praise violence against leftists, women and other marginalized leftist aligning groups and ideologies

    There, FTFY

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        They are desperately obvious and its cringe. They were in full blast damage control censorship mode even before december 4th. I was VPN banned last summer just for saying that occupied indigenous people have a right to resist occupation by any means necessary as per international law in regards to palestine and IsNoTreal. So far ive jot been able to evade the ban even with a vpn. Wall street military and prison industry profiteers have become too confident and comfortable.

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          They ban for literally anything probably because their Reddit moderation is handled by AI. The simple fact that many reports = certain ban regardless of behavior is reason enough not to be in that cesspool

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            their Reddit moderation is handled by AI

            They also have a number of fascist mods who abuse their authority to arbitrarily ban anyone saying something they don’t like.

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              Oh for sure! I got banned for “inciting violence” when I called desantis “a wanna be fascist in fake cowboy boots” and it got spam reported by conservative snowflakes. There is literally no staying unbanned on Reddit if you have any form of moral compass or social awareness

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      Yes, this is exactly what it is. A call for violence against liberals? No worries. A statement that violence may be the only option left to fight a government controlled by billionaires? Banned.