• Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    Article 19 has not been amended once since the document was released on the internet in 2015.

    I’m sure you are aware of who the president of Ukraine was in 2015.

    But like I said at the very start. Don’t let the facts get in the way of your propaganda.

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      3 days ago

      I’m sure you are aware of who the president of Ukraine was in 2015.

      I’m sure you’re aware what happened in 2014 when the legitimate government was overthrown. But like I said at the very start. Don’t let the facts get in the way of your propaganda.

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        3 days ago

        The people have the power to elect governments. And the people have the power to oust governments. That is Democracy at display.

        You’ve categorically been willfully ignorant and proven wrong throughout this entire discussion. Your meager attempts at insulting me over and over won’t change anything, and only exposes you for the manchild you are.

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          Western backed fascists overthrowing the government is not the will of the people. If it was then there wouldn’t have been a civil war with Donbas for the past 8 years. But I don’t expect you to actually acknowledge reality here. It’s pretty clear what sort of person you are.

          You’ve categorically been willfully ignorant and proven wrong throughout this entire discussion. Your meager attempts at insulting me over and over won’t change anything, and only exposes you for the manchild you are.

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            2 days ago

            Your description of events doesn’t match reality. You just make up whatever sounds good and then tell people they’re the ones who need to prove you wrong.

            Just like you made up that Zelenaky had canceled elections. I had to quote and link you the actual law, thrice, because you couldn’t comprehend what was written.

            So much for your “knowledge”

            Cute little mimic game you got going. Truly playing the part of a child.

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              2 days ago

              My description of events matches reality perfectly. Even mainstream western media admits this openly now. Gonna have to update your talking points there.

              But over half of Ukrainians wanted to see the end of the conflict as soon as possible, according to Gallup polling last year. That percentage might be higher now. Moreover, I often doubt we can trust current polls from Ukraine. Today, fear rules over a country where elections are indefinitely postponed, human rights are systematically eroded, and fear dictates daily life.

              Zelensky’s authoritarian instincts were already becoming clear even before Putin’s invasion. As early as 2019, I listened as he demanded propaganda from his subordinates to flood the media with praise when his policies failed. Today, he has achieved that: a vast army of voices branding him the face of democracy and the very embodiment of Ukraine itself.

              https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/trump-not-zelensky-is-ukraines-only-hope/

              Cute little attempts at insults you’ve got there. I’d be really insulted by them too if I had a shred of respect for your lying ass.

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                2 days ago

                Spectator.co.uk so mainstream its the first time I even hear about them.

                What you linked is an opinion piece by an anonymous “author” with no sources or anything to back up any claim.

                You’ll have to do better than that. Let’s not forget which one of us is a proven liar in this discussion. We all have the history to prove it

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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                  Oh no, an ignoramus hasn’t heard of something therefore it’s not mainstream. Impeccable logic! Anybody reading the discussion can make up their own minds on this. I’ve said all I need to say, and your ravings speak for themselves.

                  Bye.