• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    No one should buy this for gaming…

    Great CPU, but if you’re gaming you want the x3d because of caches and other “small” improvements that give huge graphics gains.

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      23 days ago

      Is it really that big of a deal? I just upgraded to a 9900x and am playing Yakuza kiwami 2 and several vr games including half life alyx at max settings. On the rare occasion I drop below 120fps, the bottleneck has very clearly been my 6700xt. I don’t think I’ve seen the cpu ever come close to maxing out

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        22 days ago

        Nah like unless your game is a cpu intensive game (older games come into mind) any recent cpu will do just fine. Hell even a 5600 still chugs for 99% of all games

        Cache is just a slight optimization and your gpu matters a lot more for gaming. The only other benefit is a bit better power draw, which is like nothing in the grand scheme of things.

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        22 days ago

        I don’t think I’ve seen the cpu ever come close to maxing out

        You bought a Camaro for an hour long daily commute stuck in traffic.

        It’s not going to be bad, it’s just if all you do is game then you’re not using what you paid for. You could be getting the same performance for much less price and electricity.

        Gaming performance might be a little worse than an x3d (probably not), but you’d need a crazy card for a cpu bottleneck so it doesn’t matter.

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          22 days ago

          You said that buying a CPU like mine, with a slightly smaller cache, was a bad idea specifically for gaming. I’m not clear on why it makes a big difference.

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            22 days ago

            You said that buying a CPU like mine, with a slightly smaller cache, was a bad idea specifically for gaming.

            For the same reason buying a Camaro to sit in traffic would be a bad idea…

            You have one, and it’s going to be fine for gaming.

            But for someone who has yet to buy one, they could pay less and get better gaming performance from an x3d.

            If it still doesn’t make sense, I’d advise asking someone else

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              22 days ago

              Literally just asking you to explain your own claim of “cache makes a huge difference for gaming,” and instead you walk that back, pretend like I said anywhere that ALL I do with it is game, and get sassy on top of that. Smdh

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                22 days ago

                Caches in this case is all about data lookup. Consistently used data/instructions will be stored on the cache and being able to read from it means not needing to read from slower storage (in this case, it would be your ram). The x3d has a larger cache, letting your cpu store more and thus do quicker lookups, but in most games, this only nets you marginal benefits. Modern cpus are not the bottleneck for games anymore.

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                22 days ago

                pretend like I said anywhere that ALL I do with it is game,

                No, I said no one should buy this for gaming…

                No one should buy this for gaming…

                You’ve misunderstood everything I said, and now you’re taking an attitude because you don’t know what’s happening. Which honestly is a very normal reaction, it’s just the threshold that’s surprising.

                Me explaining anything to you is just going to be frustrating on both sides, so I’ll take the easy step to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

  • Mettled@reddthat.com
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    23 days ago

    That’s an attractive price that will last maybe 2 GPU upgrades.

    Don’t buy the 9950x3D because the 3D v-cache is only on one set of CCX.

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      23 days ago

      Having v-cache on one CCD is not an issue. It seems most of the scheduler issues have been fixed and that was just software. It would be nice to have v-cache on both, but it actually adds more complexity.