• abraham_linksys@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    London has one of the best transit systems in the world. A car is not necessary.

    If you want to take up a shitload of extra space and pollute everywhere you go with fumes and noise then you get to pay extra. It’s a choice, not a necessity.

      • abraham_linksys@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        My friends we’re not talking about America here. There is infrastructure and a social culture beyond “why should government help it’s own people fuck you get a car”. There are lots of ways to get around by bus or train or bike and they’re all way cheaper which is good for poor folks.

        In America you’d be right, we make our poor and everyone else pay 10x what they’d spend on transit to pay for a car, car insurance, gas, parking, toll roads and repairs. Then defund every other form of transit, build our cities for cars instead of people and call it Freedom.

        • CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          Im not talking about muricaland either at least in Germany it is like that as well, and i expect it not to be much different in UK, outside the citys the public transport is a joke.

          • abraham_linksys@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            If you live outside the city, you don’t pay taxes in the city.

            If you don’t pay taxes in the city, it means local taxpayers are paying for YOUR car to wear down roads, add to traffic congestion, make lots of noise and take up space wherever you park it.

            This is why there are toll roads, parking fees, fuel taxes and other additional charges (in this case for noise and pollution) in cities.

            So if poor people living outside the city REALLY can’t use public transit to get to the city (which I doubt tbh I’ve been all over Europe for work including suburbs and rural areas entirely by train and bus) then they just have to fucking pay for the extra space, pollution and damage they cause with their cars.

            Cars don’t deserve special treatment so they can fuck up cities even more than they already do. Just look at American cities, they’re all roads and parking lots thanks to cars 😭

          • starlinguk@kbin.social
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            I’m inthe countryside outside Berlin. The buses are okay. Even places in the middle of nowhere have buses.