• TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 days ago

    Even if I rot in hell, that doesn’t mean life has meaning. It just means that some deity is a fucked up bastard. The only meaning is created, and the only one I care about is my own 😊

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      2 days ago

      These are unironically the two possibile conclusions for the question “what is the meaning of life?”

      There’s no objective or purpose, so there will never be an answer.

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        Never could be. That said, there is a function to life that is very similar to a meaning, but it’s somehow even less satisfying.

        Life is a sequence of self perpetuating chemical processes that occurred by pure chance and were allowed to build in complexity over time. The processes that were able to self perpetuate the best would be the ones to continue, leading to the iterative feedback loop that defines evolution. As they grew in complexity, the replicators not only trended towards mechanisms to respond to challenges to their own existence, they also became better at iterating and improving as quickly as possible. At this point, the first lifeforms would actively improve their own chances, shaping randomness in their favor beyond what pure luck would provide.

        Coming back to us humans, we’re effectively driven in the same way as all life: work to exist with the goal of continuing to exist. We exist to replicate and endless sequence of chemical reactions. We work because if we didn’t, we wouldn’t be able to work anymore. It’s not a meaning, but a simple fact. It’s a circular argument that only needed enough lucky dice rolls to start.

        This is the closest to objective meaning, but like I said before, I don’t give a shit about living by it. Evolution is a cruel process that designs suffering and death into our lives to maximize that objective goal. Everything we want and desire evolved to point us to action, so there’s no real way to work against it. We’ll just end up at a dead end, or actually help the process advance, so we might as well just do what we find best. I personally favor maximizing human well being over the well being of any larger construct.

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    i genuinely feel that if some of the “great” 17th to 19th century thinkers and philosophers wrote their works today they would be considered cringe. i will not be naming examples for my own safety, with one exception: nietzsche would be super cringe.

    don’t get me wrong though, lots of cool stuff was written before and after that time period. and not everything from that time period is bad, but a decent chunk of it is.

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    3 days ago

    Meanwhile still basing existence on Xian fantasy and their fear that from their Heaven they won’t be able to see those in Hell suffering so they make memes about it here to stay faithful.

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    3 days ago

    meanwhile the one avowed nihilist i’ve known was a super happy-go-lucky dude, and the absurdists i know tend to be majorly unhappy people.

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      At least for me, absurdism was appealling specifically because I was already unhappy. It’s a somewhat reassuring way to look at the world that doesn’t attempt to create some grand purpose that an unhappy person already feels has failed them. It doesn’t fix the problem, but it is a productive mindset

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    3 days ago

    Here, have some better philosophical discourse:

    The belief that reality is objective holds us back from discovering technologies that exploit the subjectivity of reality. Therefore the practical choice with regards to solipsism/realism is anti-realism

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      in some sense we already use technology that makes use of a subjective reality

      because of quantum mechanics the universe can’t be locally real, therefore quantum technologies would fulfill that requirement in my opinion

      if that’s the case, we already use technology based on subjective reality all the time. quantum mechanics is the basis for how some transistors work, utilizing quantum tunneling

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        Another technology that uses the subjectivity of reality is film. If we always perceived the objective truth, we couldn’t watch Star Wars and see a Jedi. Instead, we’d just see coloured lights on a screen. Our minds are able to construct a subjective reality using a very small amount of stimuli, and create the subjective experience of another whole universe. (Or galaxy far far away, at least).